This is horrifying, as most of the religious orders which have managed to rise from the ashes of Vatican II are devoted to the Latin Mass. May our Lord have mercy.
In response to news like this, those in my circles who frequent SSPX chapels have by and large responded by saying that those who celebrate or attend the TLM at diocesan or formerly Ecclesia Dei communities need to come over to the SSPX. I do not think this is the right approach at all. While there remain certain theological disagreements with regard to Vatican II and prudential approaches to handling the situation in the Church, I find that more and more, people from all different kinds of TLM communities hold pretty much the same views. If everyone joined the SSPX, then there would be a single potential point of failure and infiltration. The solution is for diocesan, FSSP, ICKSP et al priests to stand up and refuse to abandon the TLM and solid Catholic teaching, and for the laity to open their doors and welcome these priests if they face retaliation from their superiors. Sitting around talking about how religious liberty is bad and how the TLM was never really abrogated isn't going to help. People need to ACT like it was never abrogated.
Hope they all support each other tho, and no bickering, no more finger pointing Not "come over were more right than you". All are infiltrated. My 2 cents.
I was just yelled at last weekend by an "old-timer SSPX guy" for suggesting that not every person who goes to the indult chapel or the FSSP is a raging modernist and that the SSPX should reconsider Abp. Lefebvre's decision to impose the '62 liturgy back in 1983. He proceeded to storm off when he couldn't respond. 😂
Nothing wrong with supporting the SSPX, but it's absolutely ridiculous for laypeople who aren't third order members to have an "SSPX identity," given that they are not members. And if they are lay third order members, they still shouldn't be adopting a clerical identity. The clericalism runs deep with people assuming that priests know everything about theology and telling newcomers who have questions to "ask their priest" instead of doing some basic research on their own and picking up a catechism. It's almost like they just transferred attitudes of false obedience to the pope and bishops to the SSPX without actually learning the distinction between true and false obedience.
A procession of fakery. Regarding an invalid Mass said by a pretend-pope.
"At the ordination Mass offered on May 31, 2025, Leo prayed the Italian version, per voi e per tutti. See below. [NOTE: Notice the newly ordained social workers… I mean, priests, doing the concelebration thing with the new boss. Talk about starting out on the wrong foot!]"
What is the root if these horrors? V2. The revolution against the Catholic Church, which is Christ's Church. V2 subsists in WCC which subsists in the UN. V2 has the main purpose of suppressing the True Religion with all its dogmas, disciplines and worship. "...today we no longer understand ecumenism in the sense of a return, by which others would 'be converted' and return to being 'Catholics. This was expressly abandoned at Vatican II," said Kasper. Prevost walks in all the sins of his father, Bergoglio who walks in the sins of...back to the Synagogue of Satan. Prevost's paternity is not from Our Father. Rev. Bob is no Vicar of Christ.
You say, my dear Jackson, that Roche is from the Francis era. But the entire gist of your article neatly shows how the Francis era isn’t past. All its monsters are revived and reinvigorated. Or Re-envenomed, if you will. See Rupnik.
The Francis Era of Destruction has reached its consolidation phase. Charlotte Massacre & Lex LuthorBerger in Detroit ; Over the Top Poof bishops in Germany and Switzerland ; and Cor Petrans crackdown are confirming data points.
So as everyday gives us an opportunity to confirm our suspicions, that Prevost is not the pope, I invite everyone of good will to spread the word about the invalid election and promote the election of a true pope by the faithful of Rome as was done in the first millenium.
This is not the Catholic Church.Rome is not catholic! True catholic will have to separate from this apostate counterfeit church. Lay people must preserve the faith until God decides to eliminate this filth that is inhabiting his church.
Indeed, the time has arrived that the Church in the United States will have to skillfully go underground; nothing can stop the Latin Mass if people open their homes. This isn’t about battlefield tactics or SSPX (it should be clear by now any society can and will be infiltrated.)
Subsidiarity is the Catholic principle here; Christ is calling the Faithful to step up. Priests will be inspired to push back on the directives issued by craven bishops and embrace the peril of the Cross when they know we will give our very homes to the Holy Sacrifice.
Again, subsidiarity is the principle we need to re-learn and re-embrace. The encyclical that teaches it was written for these times.
The only thing missing in our strategy is backbone.
Believe it or not, Bishop Marcel Lefebvre was a freemason. His father, René Lefebvre had seen freemasonry in action at MI6 and as military attaché in the Hague in the Deuxième Sevice during the first 2 or 3 years of WWI. And upon returning to an impoverished home after the war he entered freemasonry to give a boost to his textile business. Later he arranged to have Marcel ordained by Bishop Achille Liènart, who also was a freemason and who would 18 years later consecrate Marcel a Bishop. At VII, Liènart promoted left wing causes while Marcel Lefebvre neutralized resistance, later founding the SSPX would isolated traditional catholics who followed them.
I dare you to follow this one up Chris. Or don't and accept the warm embrace of a Trad Inc cardigan courtesy of Kennedy Hall, a pipe full of the good stuff courtesy of Ryan Grant and a pint or two with... It's time for the separation of sheep and goats.
It is also interesting that Father Pierre Cavrois, a jesuit priest whom René Lefebvre studied with at school joined MI6 at the outset of WWI and recruited him. Fr Cavrois would later fall in love with a Greek nurse and marry her after leaving the priesthood in 1919.
They called the SSPX “fanatical” and “bigoted conspiracy theorists” for predicting every last item mentioned here that has come to pass. The concern is that this has marginalized and in some instances even radicalized certain corners and demographics of SSPX into the sede direction.
That photo of Bergoglio in his headhunter's feather headgear ... you can see in his eyes how really lit up he is. Flyin' his freak flag. Later with that Christian compassion shit, let's cook someone over hot coals ....
This is horrifying, as most of the religious orders which have managed to rise from the ashes of Vatican II are devoted to the Latin Mass. May our Lord have mercy.
In response to news like this, those in my circles who frequent SSPX chapels have by and large responded by saying that those who celebrate or attend the TLM at diocesan or formerly Ecclesia Dei communities need to come over to the SSPX. I do not think this is the right approach at all. While there remain certain theological disagreements with regard to Vatican II and prudential approaches to handling the situation in the Church, I find that more and more, people from all different kinds of TLM communities hold pretty much the same views. If everyone joined the SSPX, then there would be a single potential point of failure and infiltration. The solution is for diocesan, FSSP, ICKSP et al priests to stand up and refuse to abandon the TLM and solid Catholic teaching, and for the laity to open their doors and welcome these priests if they face retaliation from their superiors. Sitting around talking about how religious liberty is bad and how the TLM was never really abrogated isn't going to help. People need to ACT like it was never abrogated.
Hope they all support each other tho, and no bickering, no more finger pointing Not "come over were more right than you". All are infiltrated. My 2 cents.
I was just yelled at last weekend by an "old-timer SSPX guy" for suggesting that not every person who goes to the indult chapel or the FSSP is a raging modernist and that the SSPX should reconsider Abp. Lefebvre's decision to impose the '62 liturgy back in 1983. He proceeded to storm off when he couldn't respond. 😂
Nothing wrong with supporting the SSPX, but it's absolutely ridiculous for laypeople who aren't third order members to have an "SSPX identity," given that they are not members. And if they are lay third order members, they still shouldn't be adopting a clerical identity. The clericalism runs deep with people assuming that priests know everything about theology and telling newcomers who have questions to "ask their priest" instead of doing some basic research on their own and picking up a catechism. It's almost like they just transferred attitudes of false obedience to the pope and bishops to the SSPX without actually learning the distinction between true and false obedience.
“But he held a Eucharistic Procession!!!! *swoooooon* “
A procession of fakery. Regarding an invalid Mass said by a pretend-pope.
"At the ordination Mass offered on May 31, 2025, Leo prayed the Italian version, per voi e per tutti. See below. [NOTE: Notice the newly ordained social workers… I mean, priests, doing the concelebration thing with the new boss. Talk about starting out on the wrong foot!]"
https://akacatholic.com/the-pro-multis-scandal-the-revolution-goes-on/
What is the root if these horrors? V2. The revolution against the Catholic Church, which is Christ's Church. V2 subsists in WCC which subsists in the UN. V2 has the main purpose of suppressing the True Religion with all its dogmas, disciplines and worship. "...today we no longer understand ecumenism in the sense of a return, by which others would 'be converted' and return to being 'Catholics. This was expressly abandoned at Vatican II," said Kasper. Prevost walks in all the sins of his father, Bergoglio who walks in the sins of...back to the Synagogue of Satan. Prevost's paternity is not from Our Father. Rev. Bob is no Vicar of Christ.
I'm not a fan of V2, but I really think these horrors go way past V2.
V2 did not envision any of the latest outages.
V2 is in and of itself an heretical blasphemous outrage.
I'm not disagreeing 👍 I'm suggesting that V2 is not the *only* outrage. There are even worse ones.
You say, my dear Jackson, that Roche is from the Francis era. But the entire gist of your article neatly shows how the Francis era isn’t past. All its monsters are revived and reinvigorated. Or Re-envenomed, if you will. See Rupnik.
The Francis Era of Destruction has reached its consolidation phase. Charlotte Massacre & Lex LuthorBerger in Detroit ; Over the Top Poof bishops in Germany and Switzerland ; and Cor Petrans crackdown are confirming data points.
Pass the pachamama.
Prevost declared some weeks ago that "The Christian life is not lived in isolation..." basically throwing hermits under the bus.
https://www.fromrome.info/2025/06/06/cardinal-prevost-denies-that-hermits-are-christians/
So as everyday gives us an opportunity to confirm our suspicions, that Prevost is not the pope, I invite everyone of good will to spread the word about the invalid election and promote the election of a true pope by the faithful of Rome as was done in the first millenium.
https://www.fromrome.info/2025/06/01/project-save-rome/
There is no place for Catholicism under the Robber Council would-be prelates and pontiffs.
This is not the Catholic Church.Rome is not catholic! True catholic will have to separate from this apostate counterfeit church. Lay people must preserve the faith until God decides to eliminate this filth that is inhabiting his church.
Pope Provost is hosting the Coming Out Party for the Seat of the Antichrist.
They might as well paint a big yellow Bull's Eye on the top of St Peters for Vlad Putin.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. You are our only hope!
Indeed, the time has arrived that the Church in the United States will have to skillfully go underground; nothing can stop the Latin Mass if people open their homes. This isn’t about battlefield tactics or SSPX (it should be clear by now any society can and will be infiltrated.)
Subsidiarity is the Catholic principle here; Christ is calling the Faithful to step up. Priests will be inspired to push back on the directives issued by craven bishops and embrace the peril of the Cross when they know we will give our very homes to the Holy Sacrifice.
Again, subsidiarity is the principle we need to re-learn and re-embrace. The encyclical that teaches it was written for these times.
The only thing missing in our strategy is backbone.
Believe it or not, Bishop Marcel Lefebvre was a freemason. His father, René Lefebvre had seen freemasonry in action at MI6 and as military attaché in the Hague in the Deuxième Sevice during the first 2 or 3 years of WWI. And upon returning to an impoverished home after the war he entered freemasonry to give a boost to his textile business. Later he arranged to have Marcel ordained by Bishop Achille Liènart, who also was a freemason and who would 18 years later consecrate Marcel a Bishop. At VII, Liènart promoted left wing causes while Marcel Lefebvre neutralized resistance, later founding the SSPX would isolated traditional catholics who followed them.
What the!?!?
I dare you to follow this one up Chris. Or don't and accept the warm embrace of a Trad Inc cardigan courtesy of Kennedy Hall, a pipe full of the good stuff courtesy of Ryan Grant and a pint or two with... It's time for the separation of sheep and goats.
It is also interesting that Father Pierre Cavrois, a jesuit priest whom René Lefebvre studied with at school joined MI6 at the outset of WWI and recruited him. Fr Cavrois would later fall in love with a Greek nurse and marry her after leaving the priesthood in 1919.
I will qualify that better: There is substantial evience that suggests that Marcel Lefebvre could have been a freemason.
Sacramental Intention and Masonic Bishops by Rev. Anthony Cekada
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=24505280c58763d16b1d982c84d74977a15c3005
Goodbye, Roman Catholic Church
Hello, Synodal Unity Church 😳
Lets pray this is not truth
The truth is what it is. I suggest we pray instead that we know the truth and receive the clarity if mind to know what to do with it
They called the SSPX “fanatical” and “bigoted conspiracy theorists” for predicting every last item mentioned here that has come to pass. The concern is that this has marginalized and in some instances even radicalized certain corners and demographics of SSPX into the sede direction.
That photo of Bergoglio in his headhunter's feather headgear ... you can see in his eyes how really lit up he is. Flyin' his freak flag. Later with that Christian compassion shit, let's cook someone over hot coals ....