Traditionalists are still in denial, by and large. It is a disease, like the blind refusal of the Pharisees "to see" the truth in Our Lord's healing of the man born blind in the Ninth Chapter of St John's Gospel. They won't see what they don't want to see.
Trads pretended not to see, and the pretense continues. For some it is a matter of flattery, perhaps to gain or regain a position, or not to lose position or parish or diocese in the case of the FSSP, for example. No one wants to lose the Old Latin Mass, which was just guillotined in Charlotte. (It was exiled to a Protestant church site an hour outside of the city. The SSPX has an outpost there, fortunately, on the south side of Lake Norman, which I expect to explode in numbers.) The crushing of the Old Latin Mass in Charlotte would not have occurred without the green light from Leo and/or his minions at the Vatican. If it were against his will, it would not have happened. If it were not in accord with his will, 'Bishop' Martin (who's got to be Lavender) would not have dared do it.
Almost anyone with a donate button (especially if they carry a large gourmand budget for pheasant, Amaro, and fat slabs of cow, and without a sinecure, like Fr. Z, for example) is in a panic over the truth. What a foolish utterance to demand the silence of others for one's own cowardice: "Shut up!" and: "Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain!"
What a ridiculous spectacle for any Catholic blogger who allegedly loves truth, and even more so if he is a priest.
The Left, meanwhile, not only knows exactly who Prevost is--as if Bergoglio, Kasper, the inner Nine, et al. would be stupid enough to put Prevost in charge of their little Apostate-Bishop factory if he wasn't a fully vetted apparatchik--but they also seemingly knew in advance that he was going to be elected.
Look at Kasper's supremely confident pre-Conclave prediction of a bergoglian. Look at a smirking Wuerl in St. Peter's Square prior to Prevost's announcement. Would he have been there had a Catholic any chance of being elected?
Look at Austin Ivereigh and James Martin insulting Fr. Nix and his Info-Vaticana journalist friend for "attacking" Prevost. Why did they focus on defending Prevost? Clearly they knew a Bergoglian was coming. Maybe that's obvious jst from the stacked number. Seemingly, though, it seems to me, they knew it was Prevost.
Prevost was after all a plant. Bergoglio's final dastardly dart aimed at Holy Mother Church's Heart, flung from his dead hand from beyond the grave.
His plan was implemented to perfection by crafty Lavender mafia and the reliably clueless and impotent 'opposition' (dare I call it that) of the conservative faction led by Burke and Sarah.
Prevost's election by all appearances was pre-planned in advance. Grooming to the next level. Bannon notes the sheer improbability of a complete unknown soaring to election on the first day. The electioneering behind this freak 'chance' may quite possibly violate the law of Universali Domenici Gregis and its ban on vote-canvassing.
We can add that to the concerns of Archbishop Vigano and others that no way could 108 cardinal electors appointed by a heretic usurper false pope possibly elect a valid Pope.
Most of the Bergoglio cardinals could hardly be credibly accused of being Catholic. Like Prevost himself.
Thank you for an excellent and insightful commentary. May I add that I believe that Universali Domenici Gregis states that no more than 120 Cardinal electors may take part in a conclave. Francis added Cardinal electors to a total of 135 with 133 taking part in this past conclave thus violating the constitution and canon law of no more than 120. 133 Cardinal electors were allowed to proceed and vote in violation of canon law. Isn’t this kind of like if former President Biden had added electoral votes to the electoral college for select States like California that strongly lean to his party in this most recent election? Thus tilting the the scales illegally to his side? This made up scenario obviously would be challenged in court. But in our Church, we are told “nothing to see here, move along,”. Pure will to power by an oligarch caste. I wonder what the initiation into this caste must be that binds them?
For the record, Fr Malachi Martin was a recycled '70's "Jesus Now" liberal who realized there was a bigger fortune to be had in Trad Inc. That is not to take anything away from what was said in WIndswept House, but just consider the source. The Man was Lavender Mafia, but more old fashioned, preferring women, apparently.
His Art Bell interviews did massive damage to the Third Secret of Fatima in particular and eschatology in general.
His Books The Final Conclave, Keys to This Blood, and The Jesuits are just so much stuff and nonsense.
When I heard his name announced, and that he was out of Chicago, I felt like a knife went into my heart, and my stomach turned, and I began to cry. Because I am a Chicagoan and Catholic my whole life, and I know what the guys who go up the ladder in the Catholic Church in Chicago are (Modernists), and that the guys who are not that get sidelined, and if they don't watch it, get canceled entirely. This has been going on since Bernardin in 1982.
I didn't need but a second to know how awful this choice was, just based on that he was an American from Chicago. Then seeing Cupich choking up, overwhelmed with emotion of happiness when NBC's Lester Holt interviewed him in Rome in a garden somewhere, I wanted to vomit. I have the divine privilege of having Cupich as my bishop, so I knew what his tears of joy meant too.
Listening to all this Trad "give the guy a chance" talk was mind boggling to me. It is like knowing who the members of the mafia are who are controlling your neighborhood, and hearing the don died, and then being told the new don would be Mr. X. Big deal. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. You think the mafia brought in a law abiding citizen to lead them? Com'on man! Whadda you stupid?
I am just waiting now for the rest of the trad Catholic world to catch up. Some already have, but wait, oh wait. I have a sense this is the time when we are going to see the apparent destruction of the Catholic Church, like is spoken of in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. When the proverbial SHTF, we will be in a tsunami.
I KNOW God will provide, but the people who survive this are going to have to be even more based than they ever were before. The confusion in our heads, the attacks of the devil(s), the persecutions, will be ramped up. They are going after US. God will provide, but you better have your ducks in a row, because, like a tsunami, it will overwhelm most who are not ready.
And if I am wrong, and God doesn't permit them to do all the damage they intend to do, then I will come back here and praise Him, and thank Him, and admit I expected worse than He permitted.
I think we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because we were so exhausted from Francis and we were holding on to hope that Pope Leo would be different. His few recent appointments and his apparent looking the other way in other situations are beginning to paint a grim picture. How long, Lord? How long?
I hope you're wrong, but the honeymoon period of possibility and believable hope is mostly over, and I have no rational argument against this, only blind hope, which I guess is just cope and popesplaining-lite.
I'll still praise any good things we see come from Pope Leo XIV but the idea that he's a secret trad is pretty hilarious right now.
Growth is often painful. God gave us the Pope we need, for this present moment. People on the other side of the aisle did not want to believe or accept Benedict, either.
A heretic cannot, by Divine Law, be elected Pope. It is clear that Prevost holds to the heresy of universalism, else he wouldn't have canonized Jorge, or referred to a schismatic heretic (Isaac the Syrian) as a "saint". He is, therefore, automatically barred from the Papacy, and was prior to the conclave. The same was true of Jorge as well.
Excellent question. You can tell your friend it’s sort of like the difference between what comes out one end of a mule… with what comes out one end of a jack-ass.
Mary Help of Christians
24 May 2025 A. D.
Traditionalists are still in denial, by and large. It is a disease, like the blind refusal of the Pharisees "to see" the truth in Our Lord's healing of the man born blind in the Ninth Chapter of St John's Gospel. They won't see what they don't want to see.
Trads pretended not to see, and the pretense continues. For some it is a matter of flattery, perhaps to gain or regain a position, or not to lose position or parish or diocese in the case of the FSSP, for example. No one wants to lose the Old Latin Mass, which was just guillotined in Charlotte. (It was exiled to a Protestant church site an hour outside of the city. The SSPX has an outpost there, fortunately, on the south side of Lake Norman, which I expect to explode in numbers.) The crushing of the Old Latin Mass in Charlotte would not have occurred without the green light from Leo and/or his minions at the Vatican. If it were against his will, it would not have happened. If it were not in accord with his will, 'Bishop' Martin (who's got to be Lavender) would not have dared do it.
Almost anyone with a donate button (especially if they carry a large gourmand budget for pheasant, Amaro, and fat slabs of cow, and without a sinecure, like Fr. Z, for example) is in a panic over the truth. What a foolish utterance to demand the silence of others for one's own cowardice: "Shut up!" and: "Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain!"
What a ridiculous spectacle for any Catholic blogger who allegedly loves truth, and even more so if he is a priest.
The Left, meanwhile, not only knows exactly who Prevost is--as if Bergoglio, Kasper, the inner Nine, et al. would be stupid enough to put Prevost in charge of their little Apostate-Bishop factory if he wasn't a fully vetted apparatchik--but they also seemingly knew in advance that he was going to be elected.
Look at Kasper's supremely confident pre-Conclave prediction of a bergoglian. Look at a smirking Wuerl in St. Peter's Square prior to Prevost's announcement. Would he have been there had a Catholic any chance of being elected?
Look at Austin Ivereigh and James Martin insulting Fr. Nix and his Info-Vaticana journalist friend for "attacking" Prevost. Why did they focus on defending Prevost? Clearly they knew a Bergoglian was coming. Maybe that's obvious jst from the stacked number. Seemingly, though, it seems to me, they knew it was Prevost.
Prevost was after all a plant. Bergoglio's final dastardly dart aimed at Holy Mother Church's Heart, flung from his dead hand from beyond the grave.
His plan was implemented to perfection by crafty Lavender mafia and the reliably clueless and impotent 'opposition' (dare I call it that) of the conservative faction led by Burke and Sarah.
Prevost's election by all appearances was pre-planned in advance. Grooming to the next level. Bannon notes the sheer improbability of a complete unknown soaring to election on the first day. The electioneering behind this freak 'chance' may quite possibly violate the law of Universali Domenici Gregis and its ban on vote-canvassing.
We can add that to the concerns of Archbishop Vigano and others that no way could 108 cardinal electors appointed by a heretic usurper false pope possibly elect a valid Pope.
Most of the Bergoglio cardinals could hardly be credibly accused of being Catholic. Like Prevost himself.
You are right over the target, and even use Wolfy language. I love it.
Yes, Trad Inc is positively outing themselves. I have my scorecard handy, because I expect to add several names.
This is the Biggest Deep Church Operation since the Bishop Williamson Affair, which destroyed the SSPX.
Thank you for an excellent and insightful commentary. May I add that I believe that Universali Domenici Gregis states that no more than 120 Cardinal electors may take part in a conclave. Francis added Cardinal electors to a total of 135 with 133 taking part in this past conclave thus violating the constitution and canon law of no more than 120. 133 Cardinal electors were allowed to proceed and vote in violation of canon law. Isn’t this kind of like if former President Biden had added electoral votes to the electoral college for select States like California that strongly lean to his party in this most recent election? Thus tilting the the scales illegally to his side? This made up scenario obviously would be challenged in court. But in our Church, we are told “nothing to see here, move along,”. Pure will to power by an oligarch caste. I wonder what the initiation into this caste must be that binds them?
You’re welcome. What binds them—well they are not called the Lavender Mafia for nothing. The Rite of Sodomy.
Like Bugnini: “He is worse than a Mason.” What’s worse than a Mason? A satanist or a pederast, for example.
Cf. Randy Engel; Fr. Malachi Martin, Windswept House (“faction,” as he said, meaning 90 or 95% fact)
For the record, Fr Malachi Martin was a recycled '70's "Jesus Now" liberal who realized there was a bigger fortune to be had in Trad Inc. That is not to take anything away from what was said in WIndswept House, but just consider the source. The Man was Lavender Mafia, but more old fashioned, preferring women, apparently.
His Art Bell interviews did massive damage to the Third Secret of Fatima in particular and eschatology in general.
His Books The Final Conclave, Keys to This Blood, and The Jesuits are just so much stuff and nonsense.
In the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.
Amen, man.
When I heard his name announced, and that he was out of Chicago, I felt like a knife went into my heart, and my stomach turned, and I began to cry. Because I am a Chicagoan and Catholic my whole life, and I know what the guys who go up the ladder in the Catholic Church in Chicago are (Modernists), and that the guys who are not that get sidelined, and if they don't watch it, get canceled entirely. This has been going on since Bernardin in 1982.
I didn't need but a second to know how awful this choice was, just based on that he was an American from Chicago. Then seeing Cupich choking up, overwhelmed with emotion of happiness when NBC's Lester Holt interviewed him in Rome in a garden somewhere, I wanted to vomit. I have the divine privilege of having Cupich as my bishop, so I knew what his tears of joy meant too.
Listening to all this Trad "give the guy a chance" talk was mind boggling to me. It is like knowing who the members of the mafia are who are controlling your neighborhood, and hearing the don died, and then being told the new don would be Mr. X. Big deal. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. You think the mafia brought in a law abiding citizen to lead them? Com'on man! Whadda you stupid?
I am just waiting now for the rest of the trad Catholic world to catch up. Some already have, but wait, oh wait. I have a sense this is the time when we are going to see the apparent destruction of the Catholic Church, like is spoken of in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. When the proverbial SHTF, we will be in a tsunami.
I KNOW God will provide, but the people who survive this are going to have to be even more based than they ever were before. The confusion in our heads, the attacks of the devil(s), the persecutions, will be ramped up. They are going after US. God will provide, but you better have your ducks in a row, because, like a tsunami, it will overwhelm most who are not ready.
And if I am wrong, and God doesn't permit them to do all the damage they intend to do, then I will come back here and praise Him, and thank Him, and admit I expected worse than He permitted.
God bless you all. Hang in there. God wins.
I think we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because we were so exhausted from Francis and we were holding on to hope that Pope Leo would be different. His few recent appointments and his apparent looking the other way in other situations are beginning to paint a grim picture. How long, Lord? How long?
I hope you're wrong, but the honeymoon period of possibility and believable hope is mostly over, and I have no rational argument against this, only blind hope, which I guess is just cope and popesplaining-lite.
I'll still praise any good things we see come from Pope Leo XIV but the idea that he's a secret trad is pretty hilarious right now.
Please delete your post that denegrages the Mother of God. Disgusting.
No, honey, I saw it. And I said so.
Growth is often painful. God gave us the Pope we need, for this present moment. People on the other side of the aisle did not want to believe or accept Benedict, either.
A heretic cannot, by Divine Law, be elected Pope. It is clear that Prevost holds to the heresy of universalism, else he wouldn't have canonized Jorge, or referred to a schismatic heretic (Isaac the Syrian) as a "saint". He is, therefore, automatically barred from the Papacy, and was prior to the conclave. The same was true of Jorge as well.
“Groomed” is loaded language. I was expecting genuine analysis.
Does groomed in secret help your understanding?
Our lady bore an illegitimate child. Do you think God groomed her in secret ?
John 9:7
Your invincible ignorance excuses your rank blasphemy.
Is «rank blasphemy” different from ordinary blasphemy? Asking for an educated friend.
Excellent question. You can tell your friend it’s sort of like the difference between what comes out one end of a mule… with what comes out one end of a jack-ass.
John 11:35