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Al's avatar

The Vatican II Novus Ordo is an antichurch with an antipope. Find an SSPX chapel or a CMRI chapel to receive the sacraments. Otherwise, stay home, watch a TLM on TV, and make a spiritual Holy Communion.

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Paul Dale's avatar

First CMRI are outside the Church as you have to submit to the pope to be saved. What is so special about the SSPX? They hoisted thei petard on the Latin Mass, then caved into the antipope and pope usurper Cardinal Prevost, oh and told their parishoners to accept the vax. Yeah!

I have been to numerous novus ordo churches in order to fulfil my Sunday obligation where I have found many devout good catholics despite the poverty of the rite, which only goes to prove that Christ protects his flock.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

So Paul, if you have to submit to the pope to be saved, and the pope is an apostate, doesn’t that make you an apostate? If a pope will not submit to Christ, why submit to a pope?

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Paul Dale's avatar

God gave you the ability to think critically, one of the most impotant attributes that seperate us from the animal kingdom. Of course you don't submit to an apostate pope - Francis anyone? the usurper pope Cardinal Prevost - because the law has not been observed in both cases. In the case of Francis who was an antipope all the time until Benedict died. Benedict, deliberately or otherwise, failed to renounce the papacy as prescribed in Canon Law 332§2; the cardinals were remiss in not questioning him about what his intentions were, so they rushed to conclave and falsely elected Bergoglio. That great trad hope, Burke, who served as the Prefect of the Apostolic Signature, should really have known that Benedict didn't renounce the papacy according to canon law. Why the silence?

There are countless times throughout history where popes have spoken or acted erroneously, in those cases wise Catholics knew their faith and didn't give assent to them. We are taught not to obey the popes in everything, but only in the things which correspond to faith and truth. Maybe there is a reason in the chaplet to St Michael in the chaplet about principalities, that we are taught 'may the Lord fill us with a true spirit of obedience'.

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scott foresman's avatar

because you'll go to hell (won't pass 'go', won't collect 200 dollars)if you don't.

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Paul Dale's avatar

They hoisted their petard on the Latin Mass. Like all trads, we have exhausted far too much time on the aberrations of the New Mass and not seen how a wolf has entered the sheepfold. Even The Remnant wont allow discussion on the failed abdication of Benedict, or the anti-papacy of Bergoglio, let alone the errors in the election of Prevost. Recognise and Resist but please don't try and change the situation.

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David Charles's avatar

I'm afraid the SSPX are pretty infiltrated too. They are running interference for Pope Bob.

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Steven Work's avatar

The State displays Contempt of God when it demands 10% or greater taxes and fees. The USA has been active with Capital in suppressing wages sing the later 1970s and under-reporting cost-of-living Inflation, a sin the cries to Heaven. And I would expect this is world-wide.

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I will propose and direct the World's Abrahamic Court system that will review secular laws for Holy Legality. The full version of the court(s) will consist of 9 Justices; 3 orthodox Ordained Christians (for example - Traditional Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Messianic Jew), 3 orthodox Rabbis, and 3 orthodox Muslim Imams

Minimum requirements for all; God's 10 Commandments, Basics of Natural Law, and restrictions on Religious defined punishments for conversions and speech (speech without actions other than arguments, information, apologetic, wide range of communication methods)

The Proposal will be to control governments' and powerful forces' unHoly graspings with all the Abrahamic followers in Support. Court will not call for assassinations of rulers and significant adult family members but may suggest widespread non-violent protests (violence allowed in defense of person and dignity of God in some situations.) Powerful Forces might mean those families that are minions of Satan and identified by excessive wealth and [hidden] powerful influences, where if all the older adults in their bloodline and those within 3 degrees of separation power-network were removed for influence the region or world would be Truer, more Just, better right Ordered, and so Closer to God and further from those levels of Hell they have caused in the World and our Souls.

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Once the world-wide Abrahamic Court system is in place and all Abrahamic followers world wide support it, we will go Nation by Nation to make Just starting in the USA, and likely after many law-makers, Judges, executives and those that support them (behind closed doors and overseas) and their adult-family members are swinging from lamp-posts for world to see,

Of course, those that get a little playful and do some hangings will have to Confess and do community-service or similar Penitence.

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Sound good?

God Bless., Steven

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CR's avatar

I just don’t know how long to stay on this boat, if you will. It’s sinking.

The differences between traditional Catholicism and Russian Orthodoxy seem less of a hurdle than the differences between tradition and this “new” Catholic Church.

How am I Catholic if the church changes everything?

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Al's avatar

Remember, all of the antipopes and the false church have zero magisterial authority to change anything.

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Al's avatar

The Orthodox do not accept the papacy as a matter of doctrine and dogma. I personally attend the SSPX and occasionally the CMRI. At least both of those believe in the papacy. The same goes for all of the Catholic Eastern rites. All of these have valid priests and bishops- even if they erroneously think that the post Vatican II popes are legitimate.

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Ademar Rakowsky's avatar

Glory to Jesus Christ!

Don't forget Byzantine! No doubts about the validity of the Sacraments there at all.

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Al's avatar

Absolutely!

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Paul Dale's avatar

Was that a driveby comment? Throw it out of the window and you're off. No argument, no submission of evidence.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

Actually, the evidence was there before Leo ever became pope. That evidence was JPII’s and Ratzinger‘s arbitrary, unilateral, theological, revisionism concerning capital punishment for murder, which contradicted centuries of teaching from both scripture and tradition. It also turned the catechism into nothing more than a propaganda tool for papal agendas. Leo’s move here reeks of that.

If a magisterium has no more value than the Ministry of Truth in Orwell’s 1984, then Catholicism’s fundamental integrity is destroyed.

I actually wrote about this years ago for a Catholic publication:

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/3460-killing-capital-punishment-how-pope-john-paul-set-precedent-for-pope-francis

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/4010-changing-doctrine-pope-francis-vs-cardinal-john-henry-newman

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Sonia's avatar
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False. The papacy is not a fake pope.

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scott foresman's avatar

Vatican I is false. The monarchal papacy has no warrant from Scripture or the early Church. The Pope was 'first among equals'. That's all. Jorge B PROVES the current model is false. And there is NO way to impeach a tyrant or a heretic.

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Paul Dale's avatar

Look at the First Council of Jerusalem, where Peter laid down the law to the assembly. Nobody contradicted him, nobody tried to get him to change his mind, because they knew he was the pope. It was the first exercise of papal infallibility, no first among equals, and it saved the Church.

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fac's avatar

I wish I could ask a synodal question.

How does this new model save souls and get them to heaven?

(I can just imagine the word salad answer to that question.)

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Patrick O'Brien's avatar

I saw the phrase "participatory bodies" and with my old eyes I thought it said "participatory HODIES." That makes about as much sense, and maybe Leo is bringing Latin back.

I am going to visit my parish synod and point out that THE NEW SPRINGTIME OF VATICAN II and the MOVEMENTS OF THE SPIRIT, using THE NEW EVANGELIZATION under the guidance of SYNODALITY, will being about the NEW ADVENT leading to THE CIVILIZATION OF LOVE. I hope to drown them in their own bullshit.

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Sonia's avatar

"Dialogue, process, and popular piety weaponized as pseudo-magisterium." The Universal Ordinary Magisterium is infallible. If something promulgated from a purported pope is promulgated by the majority (moral unanimity) of bishops it enjoys the protection of the Holy Ghost to be error free. V2 is what it looks and sounds like - a new religion.

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David Charles's avatar

I think the Trinitarians did _not_ have a majority for quite some time during the Arian Controversy and the pope was not super helpful during this time. It was a floundering moment that rhymes with the present.

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Sonia's avatar

"It is simply not true, historically, that the pope and the entire hierarchy stopped teaching Catholic doctrine. The popes never taught heresy or anything close to it. The bishops who taught heresy were Arian bishops, who were intruders appointed not by popes but by emperors. Catholic bishops were deprived of their sees and sent into exile. It is furthermore true that the problem was not universal. The West was not nearly as much affected by the heresy as the East. There are, as well, some fine examples of popes during that fourth-century period who unwaveringly taught Catholic doctrine.

Some bring up the case of Pope Liberius who allegedly signed an ambiguous formula of a council. It is not even certain that he did sign it, but what is certain is that he did not teach it as Catholic doctrine. Consequently the worst that could be said of Liberius is that he fell personally into heresy, but it cannot be asserted that he taught it to the Church. This is a critical point.

Even this fall, however, is doubtful, for upon his return to Rome from exile, he was hailed as a great hero of the Faith. This was the same Rome which refused the emperor’s appointee to replace Liberius, whose name was Felix. The Roman Catholics refused him, not because he was an Arian, but because he was in communion with the Arians. Consequently, they never would have hailed Liberius if he had truly fallen.

https://inveritateblog.com/2019/03/26/suspended-magisterium/

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David Charles's avatar

Thanks for sharing. Too bad the author doesn't provide his sources. I would read them. This seems to me the most useful historical analog for the present.

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Sonia's avatar

Some footnotes would have been nice. The Arians not only embraced heresy they pretended to depose legitimate popes in order to impose their errors. The Arians tried to depose Pope St Julian. Pope Julian also changed the rules on appointing bishops to stop the problem of the lucrative Arian appointments. The Arian Emperor Constantius sent Liberius, Julius' successor, into exile. Emperor Valens also deposed St Athanasius' legitimate successor - Peter II - and put in the Arian, Lucius. They were a proper schism founded on heresy and supported by the secular powers.

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Laurence's avatar

Great article to summarise what every faithful priest needs to know, as the persecution of all who reject what is proposed is not far away. The fork in the pathway ahead for all of them will challenge their faithfulness to Christ.

Not that long ago many would still have faithful sensibilities to fall back on, with the ability to say these guidelines and proposals constitutes a schism, but sadly after over a decade of conditioning, many priests fail to see hiding behind the false notion of “obedience”. Many have been stripped of their discerning faculties through prolonged lukewarmness, many now unable to fight for the Truth in and of Christ. Or so it would seem. I pray many now see the need to stand ip and be countered against this centuries coming “Revolution in Rome”

On the day of Bergoglio’s death after a local priest told me he would hold he’s own local requiem mass of sorts for him, I literally explained to him that Bergoglio would go down as the biggest heretic amongst the previous 37 previous anti-popes, and that the “Revolution” would only accelerate after whatever walks through that door onto the loggia.

I’ll be sure to pass this article onto all the priests I’ve been trying to help prepare and warn of what was coming over the last 15 years. None of them should be surprised, as I only knew it was coming because of Her, yet so many of Her sons refuse to see even in this 11th 12th hour

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Laurence's avatar

As I say to all when I elaborate, pray and prepare and be certain if you know the Synod and its fruits are wrong, know that you’re on the right side and being inspired by Jesus Christ & His Mother. I’m sure all who read this Sub stack know this, but it’s very sad how many who receive Our Lord weekly don’t

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Eric S's avatar

Good thing for us thst the Cardinals in the May 7-8 Conclave violated papal election law by having 13 illegal electors who were not permitted to take part in the election and therefore Robert Prevost is not the pope. If you actually want to solve these problems THAT is what you should be reporting on.

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Eric S's avatar

Unfortunately things would have to change in a very dramatic fashion in both the Church and the world and in a way that we probably wouldn't wish to live through before any kind of popular election of a Pope would be feasible. That said however the College of Cardinals needs to be done away with.

Over the last several conclaves over a period of several decades this corrupt system of electing a pope has repeatedly given us popes who do not actually believe the Catholic religion and have done absolutely nothing to defend the Catholic people from the ravening wolves of the modern world. And now they have gotten to the point in 2025 where they are no longer even able to follow their own law and produce a valid election. So we are stuck in what will likely be a prolonged sede vacante with a fake 'pope' living in the Vatican.

The College of Cardinals and indeed the entire Cardinalate needs to be scrapped as soon as possible since it has proven itself wholly unable to fulfill its sole task which is to give the Catholic Church faithful i.e. believing men, whatever their other faults, validly elected as Roman Pontiffs.

How this will happen I have no idea, but it needs to prayed for.

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Eric S's avatar

We have a difference of opinion about a couple of things. I have heard a lot of rumors about Rampolla and for all I know they were all true. But I don't think that the Church got any savior with Pius X. He began the process of gutting the Church's liturgy with Divino Afflatu.

When Pius X banned priests from praying the ancient Roman Psalter as of 1 January 1913 he effectively announced to the Church's enemies that she was beginning to surrender all of the prized possessions she had inherited from antiquity.

Then came the Lateran Treaty where Pius XI claimed to renounce the Catholic Church's historic right to control over the city of Rome and its environs - which he no right to do. Rome was not the Pope's personal property; it belongs to the entirety of the Catholic Church since it was bought by the blood of her martyrs. The popes merely held it in custody for the Church as a whole. They had no right to surrender it.

Then came Pius XII doing twelve million little things to break up the ancient customs of the Mass and the Office. And then John XXIII and Paul VI and the complete abandonment of not only the ancient Roman liturgy but the casting aside of the Roman Faith. And now we have this farce with some dude from Chi-town claiming to be pope.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

The fact is large swathes of the Clergy have lost their way (Germany anyone?). Synodality is something that the modernists champion but it is something that can be turned against them.

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Stephen's avatar

The America's bishops make the Germans look like choir boys.

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Casandi's avatar

It really gets under my skin to hear certain vocal North American clergy blame "the German Bishops" for 'forcing' the Vatican to 'accomodate' their demands for 'change'. To me it appears more that Rome has done exactly what it wanted to synodally, and has done absolutely nothing to rein in supposed 'bad boy behavior' on the part of "the German bishops". On the contrary, Rome seems very content to allow "the German bishops" to appear to take the lead and thereby take the heavy criticism up front; criticism that is really owed to the Vatican itself. A convenient scapegoat.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

But then again....they did contrive to put chickens in diapers on a stage so they aren't that great either

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

I can well imagine looking at their brutal suppression of the Latin Mass

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Stephen's avatar

That and their proclamation and defense of all the sins that cry to God for vengeance are not sins at all. What bishop did not willingly shut down the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the reception of all the Sacraments when Ceasar demanded such during the satanic plandemic fraud? Think about that? How did Ceasar do it? He just had to imply that the spigot of usurious gains, stolen from taxpayers, would be cut off. What does that tell us when bishops choose the money over prison? Complete and total apostates, each and everyone.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

Once you do that and open the door on sin it is the squatter it is very hard to get to leave. No wonder the Adversary is running riot sowing division and chaos - they let him in.

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Stephen's avatar

Even worse, they formally invited him in and then thanked him for coming.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

This is going to take a long, long time to make right and it may never be fully right again

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Steven Work's avatar

The State displays Contempt of God when it demands 10% or greater taxes and fees. The USA has been active with Capital in suppressing wages sing the later 1970s and under-reporting cost-of-living Inflation, a sin the cries to Heaven. And I would expect this is world-wide.

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I will propose and direct the World's Abrahamic Court system that will review secular laws for Holy Legality. The full version of the court(s) will consist of 9 Justices; 3 orthodox Ordained Christians (for example - Traditional Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Messianic Jew), 3 orthodox Rabbis, and 3 orthodox Muslim Imams

Minimum requirements for all; God's 10 Commandments, Basics of Natural Law, and restrictions on Religious defined punishments for conversions and speech (speech without actions other than arguments, information, apologetic, wide range of communication methods)

The Proposal will be to control governments' and powerful forces' unHoly graspings with all the Abrahamic followers in Support. Court will not call for assassinations of rulers and significant adult family members but may suggest widespread non-violent protests (violence allowed in defense of person and dignity of God in some situations.) Powerful Forces might mean those families that are minions of Satan and identified by excessive wealth and [hidden] powerful influences, where if all the older adults in their bloodline and those within 3 degrees of separation power-network were removed for influence the region or world would be Truer, more Just, better right Ordered, and so Closer to God and further from those levels of Hell they have caused in the World and our Souls.

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Once the world-wide Abrahamic Court system is in place and all Abrahamic followers world wide support it, we will go Nation by Nation to make Just starting in the USA, and likely after many law-makers, Judges, executives and those that support them (behind closed doors and overseas) and their adult-family members are swinging from lamp-posts for world to see,

Of course, those that get a little playful and do some hangings will have to Confess and do community-service or similar Penitence.

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Sound good?

God Bless., Steven

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Stephen's avatar

Not really, since the only followers of the Abrahamic religion would be, objectively speaking, the Catholics on your court. You need to listen very closely to Our Lord's words about the true followers of Abraham. To give you an example when He told the Pharisees He could raise children of Abraham from the stones He was condemning their salvation through DNA gospel! "Let him who has ears hear." In other words, your court system would be controlled by Babelonian Talmudists, the very ones who got us here. "Let him who is ears hear."

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

The traditionalists who believe that a Latin liturgy would solve everything essentially view the liturgy as magic. The idea of “save the liturgy, save the church” is more of the same same. It’s not magic and never was intended to be.

No liturgy, no matter how traditional nor reverently said, can’t take the place of an individual’s responsibility before

God. If that’s true for the laity, how much more true is that for cleric and prelates , and even more so for a pope?

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scott foresman's avatar

when I was in the Episcopal Church, I noted that the liberals LOVED the pretty outfits, the smoke and the music, while prancing about the altar. But they didn't love or know Jesus. They loved themselves.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

This comment is ignorant of the Catholic Church Catechism itself: 1107 says: "The Holy Spirit's transforming power in the liturgy hastens the coming of the Kingdom and consummation of the mystery of salvation".

1108 says: "The most intimate co-operation of the Holy Spirit and the Church is achieved in the liturgy"

1136 says: "Liturgy is an 'action' of the whole Christ (Christus totus)"

1140 says: "Therefore liturgical services pertain to the whole Body of the Church. They manifest it, and have effects upon it".

They think that way because that is what the CCC says.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

Well, as I said in another post concerning this article, the CCC also banned capital Punishment under any and all circumstances, thanks to JP II’s, Ratzinger’s (as head of CDF) and Francis’ rhetorical manipulation that contradicts centuries of teaching from both scripture and tradition.

If the CCC can be manipulated to be nothing more than a propaganda device for people, agendas, then Catholicism’s fundamental credibility is tarnished, if not destroyed outright.

And if you’re going to tell me that the liturgy is far more important than the divine command (Genesis 9: 5-6) to execute murderers under due process, thus protecting the innocent, then your moral compass needs to be recalculated.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

Agree with you about capital punishment which I support as being correct and Scriptural for the crime of murder. However, you are wrong to dismiss its insights here because of the Church in Heaven which the liturgy provides a living link too and that has now been ruptured and is the result of the Churches crumbling - the liturgy is not ‘magical’ but it is supernatural.

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Stephen's avatar

Joseph, pump the brakes, the Divine Liturgy/Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the Sacrament by which the Holy Spirit communicates to souls the graces necessary to discern in what circumstance the death penalty is not a violation of God's Laws. Otherwise the tyrant would be justified in the administration of the death penalty to those who oppose him as a threat to his authority.

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David Charles's avatar

In a way 'yes' and in a way 'no'? There is definitely power in the TLM that's missing from the NO. And, human freedom can still screw things up.

Even if the NO is the mass and makes grace ontologically present (and I think it is and does), its attending structures (1) dispose you such that you are disinclined to receive them. It also (2) includes some negative psychological conditioning. I think this is behavior by design.

But, the goal of the TLM is the salvation of your soul, so it disposes you to receive those graces and conditions you psychologically in a positive way. So, we really need the TLM because we need grace in our souls and the eyes of faith.

That said, I have all these supports available to me and I still land in the confessional.

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Steven Work's avatar

the NO Mass does makes grace ontologically present, only by the Mercy of God. Unlike the TLM where the Preist's hands and the Priest's sacrifice and with prayers in Right-Form, then Creation and God responds naturally.

I expect that the deeper into Holy Chastisement we Fall, the less likely His Mercy will complete the missing NO Mass parts.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

To my mind, the sacrifice of the Mass is to sustain us on our journey, our pilgrimage through this life, Jesus is the living bread, the manna and we are the Israelis making our way through the desert of this life. The manna, our Lords Body is to give us the strength to endure in faith until the end, not an instant panacea for all of our broken, fallen, nature.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

If you're referring to my comment, my intent wasn't to disparage the Mass (regardless of how it's celebrated) but to call attention to the unreasonable expectations many traditionalists have concerning how it can influence human behavior.

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William Murphy's avatar

As several people have pointed out, revolutions eat their children. Plenty of the ardent French Revolutionaries ended up on the guillotine. And plenty of fervent Russian Revolutionaries found themselves with one way tickets to Siberia if they couldn't keep up with the latest switch in the Party Line.

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When I learned Pope Bob spent his entire career (not gonna say "vocation") in South America... my first thought was "Meet the new pope, same as the old pope." I experienced a faint glimmer of optimism at the majesty of his fairly traditional Consecration Mass... but, well, you know.

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Hans Gruber Central Banker's avatar

I know that Cor Orans will be repealed Any. Day. Now. Right? Right???

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scott foresman's avatar

"It avoids dogmatic confrontation while fostering systemic erosion." The United Methodist liberals did the same. Leaving alone the 'Book of Discipline', they nevertheless effected doctrinal change that went way to the left, so much so, that a split eventually occurred.

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Stephen's avatar

Pantheism and pantheists in Catholic clothes. Welcome to the church of flip-flops and beach towels. This is nauseating. Nothing scares me more than the ease by which/witch these people commit Sacrilege and Blasphemy. Anyone still believe there is good will involved here? If you do you need to become aware of the doctrine by which Our Lord corrects every man of the errors he holds, either humana modo, or not forseeing that, by direct Divine Illumination, elevated the the office of being a successor to the Apostle, i.e., a bishop before he takes his see. NO ONE WANTS TO TOUCH THIS TEACHING, NO ONE. To a man they are not of good will!

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Lydia Davidson's avatar

First they created a concilliar church, now it's a new synodal church. Do not be deceived, this is not the Catholic Church. It's a cancer in the Church that has to be uprooted with prayer and fasting. Even these prelates do not claim it is Catholic. They imply it, but it is called the synodal church. Tomorrow they will call it some other name.

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John Brophy's avatar

It all sounds like an NGO trying to re-invent itself. Break with tradition, put the women in charge, demoralise the remaining good bishops as you sap their authority and force them to adopt non-Catholic practices. Classic marxsim complete with the struggle sessions and a good dose of Cloward-Piven activism. Let us use this trial to strengthen our faith and intensify our prayers - ¨Tradition will once more flourish during a great Age of Peace, which will be the last and greatest period of the Church. Heresies will cease and the Church will flourish like never before.¨

https://greatmonarch-angelicpontiffprophecies.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-great-catholic-monarch-and-angelic.html

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Everybody in Heaven is Catholic! If you get the Grace to get there, you will be Catholic 5 minutes after your Death. I promise you that. Now. What kinda AWAKENING is dis!?? You can’t understand why the Satan MUST DESTROY the Catholic Church before he can install the New World Order ?? Go and figure it out. Your Soul was paid dearly and Expensive ! This is why you here, this is all you gotta Do, to find the Truth. But all you are, is to be a Victim of Propaganda. You think you can choose your Church and pick dis and that out, you think you can make your own Interpretation of the Scripture, you think that Freemasons and infiltration of the one and holy Church of Jesus Christ can make it powerless and unholy ? You think humans can make the Sacraments invalid??? WOAW.

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E Maria Villa's avatar

As I've stated in my previous comment; 'This is the ape of the catholic church,' NOT the Roman Catholic Church Christ founded. I believe us, 'the REMNANT' will go underground like the Remnant True Catholic's in Communist China. Sure, there are good pockets of good solid Roman Catholics all over the world but, is it too late? Are we at the cusp of a 'New Era?' New World Order? Nevertheless, we continue on with our Roman Catholic Faith that Jesus Christ founded. And if they do away with her, we go underground, like our True brother's/sister's in Christ in China who celebrate underground. But no matter what happens, we have to remain Faithful to Christ to the very End as St. Paul states; 'Only those who remain Faithful to the very End, will be in Glory.

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andreasadi's avatar

in nomine patri.

Jesus Christ!!Please come quickly!!

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