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Andrew Vavuris's avatar

If the Mass of the Ages can be unshackled, it will consume the Mass of Paul the VI and all the truncated sacramental rituals (in time).

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Our Blood and Soil's avatar

Agreed. Unshackle the TLM!!

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Bryce Mitchell's avatar

“The truth is this: the Novus Ordo is the Mass of indifference. It shrugs at Scripture. It treats 1,969 years of liturgical tradition as optional.”

Interesting take. One of the goals of the liturgical form was to increase scripture reading, which the Novus Ordo does. From 1% of the Old Testament and 16.5% of the New Testament to 13.5% and 71.5% respectively for the equivalent proportions for Sundays and weekdays.

The Novus Ordu also brought back older liturgical traditions, such as the prayer of the faithful. The Tridentine Mass is also not 1,969 years old (you might know this, but from this article it sounds like you do not). It was codified in 1570 and underwent many, many changes throughout the centuries. It also led to the suppression of older rites in the western Church.

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Jared's avatar

In my experience, more and more young Catholics are seeking to follow these ancient practices, and while they aren't being enforced (because Youngtrad priests don't have any authority to enforce at least most of them), I highly doubt they will be thought of as fringe in 20 years. The hierarchy which supports this stuff is quickly heading towards the tomb. In 20-35 years, they'll have been almost completely replaced. Boomerism is in it's death throes, trying to enforce itself on the next generation, but it can't, because the next generation knows it is dying.

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Yohanes Evan's avatar

What about if I say just until 13 June 2029?

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Live Life Not Behind Glass's avatar

Why 13th of June? I think I get the 2029 but the June part I do not

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Yohanes Evan's avatar

It will be exactly 100 years since Our Lady's apparition with the Most Holy Trinity when Sister Lucy was in Tuy, Spain to demand the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Guess what will happen to the Pope if the fate of the King Louis XVI of France repeats on him.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

Unpopular Opinion: Murdering Babies is Nowhere Close To Reproductive Health Care

https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/unpopular-opinion-murdering-babies

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RosaryKnight's avatar

It all goes back to the vitiated 1958 papal conclave, ushering in a series of invalid popes, as the White Smoke 1958 & Novus Ordo Watch websites explain.

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Cookies's avatar

Vat 2 got too powerful. Globalists have too much influence. We'd need a new Holy Catholic Pope in '45 to end vat 2 mission. I just don't see a path to a Holy Pope with the way the election is set up now. 20+ will be bad but will flourish and be worse for generations. Bishops/Cards putting out Novenas to pray for PL should be adding pray for PL conversion. But they won't even say those words. We're screwed

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