I always had reservations about Deacon Fournier since he dresses like a priest and he is only a deacon. Who is going to know he is only a deacon when he dresses like a priest? It is inappropriate in my opinion.
I never put 2&2 together until now. I didn’t realize who Dcn. Keith Fournier was until today. He’s from back in the day in Steubenville, OH when I was going to college at Franciscan University in the 1980’s. He was very involved in the charismatic community there in Steubenville and there were many issues related to him. That’s all I’m going to say. When I saw him at LifeSite creeping his way in, it made the hairs on my back standup. I never knew that the Keith Fournier from Steubenville and Dcn. Fournier were the same person because I only knew the Attorney Keith Fournier, not as a deacon. With what’s going on at LifeSite and knowing that he had been working under Bishop Strickland in Tyler, TX, I now wonder if he was somehow involved in the removal of Bishop Strickland by the Vatican!! I don’t want to say any more. It just now all makes sense to me. Wherever he goes, trouble follows. For me personally, I think he is out of bounds dressing like a priest. I have a cousin and some good friends who are all deacons and they, too, say it’s very unusual and is attention seeking. In fact, whenever I saw him, I always thought he WAS a priest, which is why I never made the connection to the Fournier I knew in Steubenville because he was married. I only learned recently that he was a deacon. It’s all so crazy!
They are one of the Holy Orders and they are NOT to engage in the marriage act.
They will point to the earliest Church but that is sophistry - many of the men called to Holy Orders in the early Church were married previously, it was just starting, obviously that would be the case.
BUT they and their spouses MUTUALLY agreed to put aside the marriage debt and the wife often went into what amounted to a proto-female-religious-life.
AND the practice of men REMAINING deacons in the West was terminated and it became a TRANSITION to full fledged priesthood rather than them forever remaining SERVANTS which is what deacon mean.
It's all a big pile of abuse and the worst of it is that in many cases it is men that are actually faithful and trying to do good and they've been sucked into it by those that KNOW BETTER and lied to them.
Good point. Mind you, V2 leaders dress like Vicars of Christ and are nothing of the sort; a level of masquerade that is incomparably more egregious, having eternal consequences for billions of souls.
Now that we are into the minutiae of the LifeSite Dogfight- or is that Catfight?- this statement is most curious...
"But co-CEO Robert Hoover, a former Microsoft executive with no prior experience in Catholic media, immediately countered..."
So how does a former Microsoft Executive get to be so powerful in the maw of LifeSite? Any opinions or answers, Mr Kokx or Mr Weston?
This is sort of like coming into Star Wars at the Battle of Yavin, without any context or history, and so we have little idea who we should be rooting for.
Considering that we are just weeks away from the Annihilation of Nations, the last thing Concerned Catholics need is another Spin Cycle.
Is the Trad JHW? I ask because I never took him as a “trad”. Especially when he sat with Bishop Strickland and that Deacon and talked so charismatically over the pope. He always came off to me as a conservative NO slightly interested in charismatic stuff.
Based on his kinda cringe little video spots, KF comes off as kooky. Read his ‘Evangelical Catholics’ years ago and it somehow left a similar impression.
You are right to notice this, sorry if I sound like AI ;) But yes, he appointed the deacon who prayed in tongues for decades apparently so I suppose he JHW was a little naive.
But the generations change. Nobody needs them for news now because there are so many sources for the enquiring mind. They don't understand that things have changed, unless they do and they just want to wreck it.
The enquiring mind is having a hard time of it. But the inquiring mind is having a field day. Seems mostly everything on the Internet- including the Lamestream news, is fake and ghey.
Thank you so much, Bede, for posting this link! I think everyone who cares about this situation needs to read it. It gave me chills to learn how the LSN board planned and plotted JHW's departure, especially the testimony from Ann Lyke, a newcomer to LSN having been employed for only four years, and most recently as the Director of Advertising and Production since June 2024. She, probably more than anyone else there, took JHW down with her vitriolic testimony (and as an aside, just wondering if it was JHW who gave her the job at LSN in the first place). And Bishop Strickland - Jesus, Lover of my soul, let me to thy bosom fly! I'm totally gobsmacked (and deeply saddened) by his apparent betrayal of JHW. Please, readers, just go read it for yourselves. Not saying John-Henry was perfect or didn't make mistakes, but this was an obvious gang ambush.
I really don't think the LSN Board was being overly sinister here. I see fault on both sides. John Henry Weston should have realized he was surrounded by clueless Bogus Ordo Sheeple who could not handle the truth. The Bogus Ordo Sheeple wanted an organization that would cover Pro-Life issues from a political and "interfaith" perspective. "Pope bashing" was never part of the agenda. And while I certainly do not agree with the SINodal program of either Pope Frantic or Pope Provost, I can see the point.
Here is the link to Christine Harrington's YouTube video of the leaked LSN board meeting (just skip to the leak if you'd like to bypass her venomous hate talk of JHW, etc.). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhvlGAAkzDQ. Oh, and be sure to go through the comments on this woman's video; most of them are against what she did and the leak, itself. Very reprehensible, not at all Catholic, let alone Christian and probably illegal.
Oh, I think the ones who ordered this take down of Westen and LSN are way above Prevost's Vatican pay grade. This is New World Order stuff. As soon as it happened I thought of James O'Keefe at Project Veritas. Same operation. Mother Angelica and EWTN also comes to mind.
My theory is when they can't blackmail or flip the CEO of one of these outlets broadcasting the truth, they infiltrate the Board of Directors, stack the deck, and throw the guy out.
I think the fall of Michael Voris and Church Militant is another example, only they were able to work on Voris' weakness of being same-sex attracted, and so they had ol' Milo Yiannopoulos sashay across the stage, and sing the sweet siren song Voris was so susceptible to, and then once Voris succumbed to the temptation of his old sinful life, and more than likely wouldn't go away peacefully, they exposed him and destroyed the outlet.
They couldn't care less if the organization is destroyed, because the mission is to silence the voice of truth that is contrary to the narrative. If they can use the resulting organization to promote their narrative (EWTN), they do so. If that doesn't work, they let it die (like Project Veritas) or take it down (like Church Militant).
You are SPOT ON! This is the New World Order/One World Religion at work here. The minute I realized just WHO Dcn Keith Fournier is, everything made sense to me. Trouble always follows that guy! Known him since the 1980’s in Steubenville. Knowing that he was also working under Bishop Strickland in Tyler, TX, I now wonder if he was involved in the good bishop’s removal. Idk, I just know that trouble always follows him. Because of JHW’s love and esteem for Bishop Strickland, I believe he was naive in letting Dcn. Fournier into the LSN fold without knowing his background. I’ve never heard of this new CEO Hoover guy but the fact that he came from Microsoft with no background in Catholic media tells me everything I need to know. The devil is so cunning, isn’t he?? We all must be so careful who we let into our inner circles, ESPECIALLY such good solid media outlets like LSN! You are soooo right that when they can’t flip the CEO, they infiltrate the boards, stack the deck and then oust the CEO. Your insights about Michael Voris are awesome!!! I never thought about that with Milo. Boy the devil is so cunning, isn’t he??
I had not connected that Deacon Keith Fournier was with Bishop Strickland in Tyler, Texas. Yes, I remember that now, and that he seemed a little shady to me even in his comments after Bishop Strickland was removed. Thanks!
I feel there is something more to all this. All this drama and trad fighting is part of someone’s bigger plan? To watch tradition self destruct? We must proceed with caution, regroup and be wise to this evil. Someone is sitting back watching all this unravel and laughing. Lord, give us eyes to see.
I'm not very familiar with Deacon Fournier, except that I remember seeing his emails in my inbox multiple times and deciding not to read them for some reason because something always felt off (one way to put it is they felt "too Novus Ordo"). Now I know I had a reason to dislike him.
In a nutshell, I agree with those posters saying there's more to it. Microsoft-Bill Gates-New World Order death cult (pro-abortion; assisted dying; population control in any way possible e.g. mRNA jabs, many courtesy of Gates himself) ramping up for what they think (I presume) will be their glorious hour. They don't want any pro-life, pro-God, pro-Catholicism influences with large audiences.
They were never going to allow pro-life sites to flourish without trying to destroy them and it's probably child's play for them to take them down, if by a slow creep rather than an explosion.
I've been a reasonably regular reader of Lifesite over 10 years but it's changed dramatically and I don't read much there any more (banned about 5 times!). I also avoided Westen's rather weird stuff headlines like aliens, suspect apparitions and what have you. I think it was a big mistake, and don't understand why he got into it all (and someone else has mentioned charismatic movement) but I don't think what's happened has anything to do with that. From the available information, I believe something nasty's crawled out of the woodwork and he got in its way, and we all know whom the the New World Order serves.
I'm not in the least bit surprised that this has happened - there's been something strange going on for a while and I have the same feeling about another major site, the behaviour of which is very similar - just saying.
"his decades-long practice of praying in tongues". What was JHW thinking getting a charismatic involved?? So many people doing good things appoint bad people.
>> co-CEO Robert Hoover, a former Microsoft executive with no prior experience in Catholic media
>> According to multiple internal sources, Hoover has imposed what employees are calling a “tyrannical company-wide lockdown.”
Fron Kokx:
>> LSN LEGAL COUNSEL Keith Fournier publicly defends "praying in tongues for over 50 years."
>> Fournier defends PREVOST'S pagan Mass, re-packaged as the "Care of Creation" Mass
There you go.
We knew that vermin had infested LSN and managed a coup.
What a revolting combination -- Big tech overlord crossed with demon addled so-called-charasmatic.
Undobubtedly they've pulled in others of their ilk and now they're trying to purge any remaining faithful.
Prayers that Westen and Kokx managed to thwart them and clean things up.
Until/if they do though -- there clearly is even more reason to stay clear of the wretched mess that LSN has become.
Thanks to Jackson, Kokx, and Westen for standing up to them. Hopefully they inspire others still within that mess. [Apologies, and please delete if this is double posted.]
The whole charismatic renewal, the constant reference to the Holy Spirit and charisms, is nothing more than a substitute for Apostolicity.
First, the various Protestant sects tried to legitimize themselves with charismaticism. Charismaticism, as a "direct and living connection with the Holy Spirit," is an attempt to legitimize their break with the Apostolic faith, tradition, and Church and to make up for the lack of Apostolicity. Now the conciliar-synodal antichurch is doing the same. But in doing so, it only makes it clear that it is not the Apostolic Church.
The hostile takeover of LSN at the budding start of Pope Bob’s rein was as sketchy as dollar store cheese. Begs the question were the individuals running the various Trad Inc. brand names “persuaded” in any unseemly way by Vatican agents to stand down on criticism of Francis II… err… Bob I… I mean Leo XIV?
Who appointed Hoover as CEO? It appears there is a power struggle going on between Ismert, who as Chairman of the Board ordinarily outranks Hoover as CEO, and Hoover. Hoover was able to implement the lockdown, however. I wonder who’s pulling the strings.
Speaking of, I’m sure others have noted the change of name for EWTN/Raymond Arroyo’s “Papal Posse” to “Prayer Posse”.
Catholics have always had tolerance for the different “flavours” of Catholicism in each other. We may have dear Catholic friends who go gaga over an unapproved apparition, or find solace in traveling to anpparition sites. Others may choose to kneel on the floor to receive Communion on the tongue. Some have appreciated the charismatic renewal, and tongues are a quiet private consolation for them in their spiritual life. Others have a weighted focus on Mary, sometimes seeming to sideline Jesus. Some focus on novenas. Through all this we love and remain as Catholic friends, focusing on the central tenets of our beloved Catholic faith - the tenets that unite us. It may be a priest or parish karens who get knicker-knocked, screaming “Beware the attack in Unity!” over a parishioner kneeling for Communion on the tongue. The rest of the parish barely notices (if at all) and gets on with their lives. We are faithful Catholics. We love the Lord, love His Church, and seek to love and tolerate one another, all with differing flavours of piety.
We might be seeing here who is in the details now - dividing and conquering a ministry.
For what it is worth, I have heard at least a dozen around me say in the last few years that they rarely read Lifesite any more; they just scan the headlines - if that. Why? It is thought by some, myself included, it has become too strident, sometimes overreacting too quickly to news, and moving away from the original pro-life focus. The Church has always moved slowly. Perhaps we need to think about that.
Consider calling all parties involved to go on a three-day retreat with solid, knowledgeable third-party priests as directors. Pray together, eat together, receive the sacraments together. Kyrie eleison.
Sounds like Mystica Pollyanna to me. And as for tolerating the many "flavors" of Catholicism, uh-uh. There was only ONE flavor of Catholicism before Vatican II where every Catholic - good, bad, or indifferent - knew what the Faith was about, or could know if they cared to learn. And it didn't change to suit one's fancy at any given moment. It was always the same - One, Holy (pivotal word here, holy), Catholic, and Apostolic. A Catholic could go to Mass anywhere in the world and follow it because it was the same everywhere, said in one language - Latin - with the interpretation to the vernacular on one side of the missal and Latin on the other. We were catechized under one Catechism of the Church, taught what sin was, and how to work out our salvation here on earth. There were no charismatic renewals, guitar or clown masses, abbreviated habits, or pagan rituals to Pachamama. Yes, the Church moved slowly, not rushing into "canonizing" questionable propagandist social stars and soft-on-doctrine so-called apparitions. You talk about dividing and conquering a ministry. That's exactly what VII did to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church - it splintered her into exactly the melting pot of various "flavors" you describe above, with absolutely no unity. I want the True Church back, not this Ecclesia Haeretica.
Perhaps I was not clear. Maybe emphasis on certain “pieties” would be more accurate. I thought that became evident in the totality of my original posting.
We are faithful Catholics who live with other faithful Catholics, and we all know that good people take solace in, or emphasize, certain aspects of the faith (and, yes, sometimes it seems to others it can be too much of an emphasis). At the same time we all embrace the teachings of the Church, love the Sacraments and Sacred Scripture as best as we can.
I am not young, and I can say with certainty that most faithful Catholics I have known over these years have glommed onto a piety of sorts that consoles them, while not taking them away from the centrality of Catholic faith. One chases after every apparition that comes up, yet attends daily Mass, spends hours daily in intercessory prayer, leads an exemplary life. Another says Mother Mary and her deep faith in the rosary are her main focus and does not wish to meditate on Scripture; she is a holy, pious woman.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made, yet we are in part formed by our upbringing, teachers, environment. We are wounded and seek wholeness in our journey to God, battered by circumstance, culture, and the love that is available to us. We are sharing a path on the Kingdom of Heaven Road to the kingdom of heaven. God know our wounds, weaknesses, strengths and gifts. Most importantly, He knows our hearts.
My point, perhaps poorly made, was that we need to remember to cut each other some slack. We know not the struggles of other Catholics as they seek solace in faith. Many are dancing as fast as they can with the knowledge, circumstances and gifts they have. And I would hope that tolerance is given me as I seek to live out my Catholic faith. These are not easy times to be Catholic. Thanks be to God we have the grace of the sacraments.
I believe calling JHW a prophet is mistaken when the big picture is taken into account. I would call him controlled opposition, one who was deviating too far. Something interesting to note is that LSN would allow comments & replies leading readers to novusordowatch.org or other sede sites like whitesmoke1958.com, which other Trad V2 sites would not allow. Maybe that's the main reason for his ouster?
I always had reservations about Deacon Fournier since he dresses like a priest and he is only a deacon. Who is going to know he is only a deacon when he dresses like a priest? It is inappropriate in my opinion.
I never put 2&2 together until now. I didn’t realize who Dcn. Keith Fournier was until today. He’s from back in the day in Steubenville, OH when I was going to college at Franciscan University in the 1980’s. He was very involved in the charismatic community there in Steubenville and there were many issues related to him. That’s all I’m going to say. When I saw him at LifeSite creeping his way in, it made the hairs on my back standup. I never knew that the Keith Fournier from Steubenville and Dcn. Fournier were the same person because I only knew the Attorney Keith Fournier, not as a deacon. With what’s going on at LifeSite and knowing that he had been working under Bishop Strickland in Tyler, TX, I now wonder if he was somehow involved in the removal of Bishop Strickland by the Vatican!! I don’t want to say any more. It just now all makes sense to me. Wherever he goes, trouble follows. For me personally, I think he is out of bounds dressing like a priest. I have a cousin and some good friends who are all deacons and they, too, say it’s very unusual and is attention seeking. In fact, whenever I saw him, I always thought he WAS a priest, which is why I never made the connection to the Fournier I knew in Steubenville because he was married. I only learned recently that he was a deacon. It’s all so crazy!
So-called-permanent-deacons are a VII Abuse.
They are one of the Holy Orders and they are NOT to engage in the marriage act.
They will point to the earliest Church but that is sophistry - many of the men called to Holy Orders in the early Church were married previously, it was just starting, obviously that would be the case.
BUT they and their spouses MUTUALLY agreed to put aside the marriage debt and the wife often went into what amounted to a proto-female-religious-life.
AND the practice of men REMAINING deacons in the West was terminated and it became a TRANSITION to full fledged priesthood rather than them forever remaining SERVANTS which is what deacon mean.
It's all a big pile of abuse and the worst of it is that in many cases it is men that are actually faithful and trying to do good and they've been sucked into it by those that KNOW BETTER and lied to them.
Good point. Mind you, V2 leaders dress like Vicars of Christ and are nothing of the sort; a level of masquerade that is incomparably more egregious, having eternal consequences for billions of souls.
Where there is Microsoft execs, the blue screen of death is never far behind.
Same with Deacon Keith Fournier!
Agree!
Now that we are into the minutiae of the LifeSite Dogfight- or is that Catfight?- this statement is most curious...
"But co-CEO Robert Hoover, a former Microsoft executive with no prior experience in Catholic media, immediately countered..."
So how does a former Microsoft Executive get to be so powerful in the maw of LifeSite? Any opinions or answers, Mr Kokx or Mr Weston?
This is sort of like coming into Star Wars at the Battle of Yavin, without any context or history, and so we have little idea who we should be rooting for.
Considering that we are just weeks away from the Annihilation of Nations, the last thing Concerned Catholics need is another Spin Cycle.
In the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.
If you don’t know who to root for…you might be Trad Inc. 😅 It’s a Trad vs a board firing him for being too Trad. Choice is clear.
Is the Trad JHW? I ask because I never took him as a “trad”. Especially when he sat with Bishop Strickland and that Deacon and talked so charismatically over the pope. He always came off to me as a conservative NO slightly interested in charismatic stuff.
My question: How did the board get dominated by Trad Inc? How is it that a former Microsoft Exec is calling the shots at LifeSite?
Forgive me if I suspect I am looking at just another dog and pony show.
Based on his kinda cringe little video spots, KF comes off as kooky. Read his ‘Evangelical Catholics’ years ago and it somehow left a similar impression.
who is KF? Lost the plot here.
Keith Fournier, one presumes.
You are right to notice this, sorry if I sound like AI ;) But yes, he appointed the deacon who prayed in tongues for decades apparently so I suppose he JHW was a little naive.
That is why the details are always withheld from us. Just trust our heroes, and don't ask questions.
It is always the same spin. Rinse. Repeat.
But the generations change. Nobody needs them for news now because there are so many sources for the enquiring mind. They don't understand that things have changed, unless they do and they just want to wreck it.
The enquiring mind is having a hard time of it. But the inquiring mind is having a field day. Seems mostly everything on the Internet- including the Lamestream news, is fake and ghey.
https://akacatholic.com/the-scarlett-s-jh-westens-undoing/
Thank you so much, Bede, for posting this link! I think everyone who cares about this situation needs to read it. It gave me chills to learn how the LSN board planned and plotted JHW's departure, especially the testimony from Ann Lyke, a newcomer to LSN having been employed for only four years, and most recently as the Director of Advertising and Production since June 2024. She, probably more than anyone else there, took JHW down with her vitriolic testimony (and as an aside, just wondering if it was JHW who gave her the job at LSN in the first place). And Bishop Strickland - Jesus, Lover of my soul, let me to thy bosom fly! I'm totally gobsmacked (and deeply saddened) by his apparent betrayal of JHW. Please, readers, just go read it for yourselves. Not saying John-Henry was perfect or didn't make mistakes, but this was an obvious gang ambush.
I really don't think the LSN Board was being overly sinister here. I see fault on both sides. John Henry Weston should have realized he was surrounded by clueless Bogus Ordo Sheeple who could not handle the truth. The Bogus Ordo Sheeple wanted an organization that would cover Pro-Life issues from a political and "interfaith" perspective. "Pope bashing" was never part of the agenda. And while I certainly do not agree with the SINodal program of either Pope Frantic or Pope Provost, I can see the point.
Here is the link to Christine Harrington's YouTube video of the leaked LSN board meeting (just skip to the leak if you'd like to bypass her venomous hate talk of JHW, etc.). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhvlGAAkzDQ. Oh, and be sure to go through the comments on this woman's video; most of them are against what she did and the leak, itself. Very reprehensible, not at all Catholic, let alone Christian and probably illegal.
Actually I am glad for the leak. Not at all reprehensible. And certainly not illegal.
IF ONLY WE COULD HAVE A SIMILAR LEAK FROM THE VATICAN. I THINK MOST CATHOLICS WOULD BE SCRAPING THEIR JAW OFF THE FLOOR.
In the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.
Thanks for the link. I follow AKA Catholic- although the SedeVacantists definitely have their problems, too- and usually Louie is over the target.
It's like evil forces have entered LifeSite to tear it apart. So tragic.
It all smacks of the long fingers of the false Conciliar Church putting a death grip on LSN. Excellent reporting Mr. Jackson!
Oh, I think the ones who ordered this take down of Westen and LSN are way above Prevost's Vatican pay grade. This is New World Order stuff. As soon as it happened I thought of James O'Keefe at Project Veritas. Same operation. Mother Angelica and EWTN also comes to mind.
My theory is when they can't blackmail or flip the CEO of one of these outlets broadcasting the truth, they infiltrate the Board of Directors, stack the deck, and throw the guy out.
I think the fall of Michael Voris and Church Militant is another example, only they were able to work on Voris' weakness of being same-sex attracted, and so they had ol' Milo Yiannopoulos sashay across the stage, and sing the sweet siren song Voris was so susceptible to, and then once Voris succumbed to the temptation of his old sinful life, and more than likely wouldn't go away peacefully, they exposed him and destroyed the outlet.
They couldn't care less if the organization is destroyed, because the mission is to silence the voice of truth that is contrary to the narrative. If they can use the resulting organization to promote their narrative (EWTN), they do so. If that doesn't work, they let it die (like Project Veritas) or take it down (like Church Militant).
They are not playin'.
You are SPOT ON! This is the New World Order/One World Religion at work here. The minute I realized just WHO Dcn Keith Fournier is, everything made sense to me. Trouble always follows that guy! Known him since the 1980’s in Steubenville. Knowing that he was also working under Bishop Strickland in Tyler, TX, I now wonder if he was involved in the good bishop’s removal. Idk, I just know that trouble always follows him. Because of JHW’s love and esteem for Bishop Strickland, I believe he was naive in letting Dcn. Fournier into the LSN fold without knowing his background. I’ve never heard of this new CEO Hoover guy but the fact that he came from Microsoft with no background in Catholic media tells me everything I need to know. The devil is so cunning, isn’t he?? We all must be so careful who we let into our inner circles, ESPECIALLY such good solid media outlets like LSN! You are soooo right that when they can’t flip the CEO, they infiltrate the boards, stack the deck and then oust the CEO. Your insights about Michael Voris are awesome!!! I never thought about that with Milo. Boy the devil is so cunning, isn’t he??
I had not connected that Deacon Keith Fournier was with Bishop Strickland in Tyler, Texas. Yes, I remember that now, and that he seemed a little shady to me even in his comments after Bishop Strickland was removed. Thanks!
I feel there is something more to all this. All this drama and trad fighting is part of someone’s bigger plan? To watch tradition self destruct? We must proceed with caution, regroup and be wise to this evil. Someone is sitting back watching all this unravel and laughing. Lord, give us eyes to see.
I'm not very familiar with Deacon Fournier, except that I remember seeing his emails in my inbox multiple times and deciding not to read them for some reason because something always felt off (one way to put it is they felt "too Novus Ordo"). Now I know I had a reason to dislike him.
In a nutshell, I agree with those posters saying there's more to it. Microsoft-Bill Gates-New World Order death cult (pro-abortion; assisted dying; population control in any way possible e.g. mRNA jabs, many courtesy of Gates himself) ramping up for what they think (I presume) will be their glorious hour. They don't want any pro-life, pro-God, pro-Catholicism influences with large audiences.
So they infiltrate and destroy from within, just as they have governments. Schwab speaking about infiltration of governments:: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3XMPkEvTyM:
They were never going to allow pro-life sites to flourish without trying to destroy them and it's probably child's play for them to take them down, if by a slow creep rather than an explosion.
I've been a reasonably regular reader of Lifesite over 10 years but it's changed dramatically and I don't read much there any more (banned about 5 times!). I also avoided Westen's rather weird stuff headlines like aliens, suspect apparitions and what have you. I think it was a big mistake, and don't understand why he got into it all (and someone else has mentioned charismatic movement) but I don't think what's happened has anything to do with that. From the available information, I believe something nasty's crawled out of the woodwork and he got in its way, and we all know whom the the New World Order serves.
I'm not in the least bit surprised that this has happened - there's been something strange going on for a while and I have the same feeling about another major site, the behaviour of which is very similar - just saying.
"his decades-long practice of praying in tongues". What was JHW thinking getting a charismatic involved?? So many people doing good things appoint bad people.
Key take aways.
From Jackson:
>> co-CEO Robert Hoover, a former Microsoft executive with no prior experience in Catholic media
>> According to multiple internal sources, Hoover has imposed what employees are calling a “tyrannical company-wide lockdown.”
Fron Kokx:
>> LSN LEGAL COUNSEL Keith Fournier publicly defends "praying in tongues for over 50 years."
>> Fournier defends PREVOST'S pagan Mass, re-packaged as the "Care of Creation" Mass
There you go.
We knew that vermin had infested LSN and managed a coup.
What a revolting combination -- Big tech overlord crossed with demon addled so-called-charasmatic.
Undobubtedly they've pulled in others of their ilk and now they're trying to purge any remaining faithful.
Prayers that Westen and Kokx managed to thwart them and clean things up.
Until/if they do though -- there clearly is even more reason to stay clear of the wretched mess that LSN has become.
Thanks to Jackson, Kokx, and Westen for standing up to them. Hopefully they inspire others still within that mess. [Apologies, and please delete if this is double posted.]
Louie has one of the other key pieces necessary to see the full picture in his post:
Ann Lyke.
Marketers.
Really that's all that needs to be said. Oh, and unrestrained.
The whole charismatic renewal, the constant reference to the Holy Spirit and charisms, is nothing more than a substitute for Apostolicity.
First, the various Protestant sects tried to legitimize themselves with charismaticism. Charismaticism, as a "direct and living connection with the Holy Spirit," is an attempt to legitimize their break with the Apostolic faith, tradition, and Church and to make up for the lack of Apostolicity. Now the conciliar-synodal antichurch is doing the same. But in doing so, it only makes it clear that it is not the Apostolic Church.
The hostile takeover of LSN at the budding start of Pope Bob’s rein was as sketchy as dollar store cheese. Begs the question were the individuals running the various Trad Inc. brand names “persuaded” in any unseemly way by Vatican agents to stand down on criticism of Francis II… err… Bob I… I mean Leo XIV?
Who appointed Hoover as CEO? It appears there is a power struggle going on between Ismert, who as Chairman of the Board ordinarily outranks Hoover as CEO, and Hoover. Hoover was able to implement the lockdown, however. I wonder who’s pulling the strings.
Speaking of, I’m sure others have noted the change of name for EWTN/Raymond Arroyo’s “Papal Posse” to “Prayer Posse”.
And where is Steve Jalsevac in all this now? Is he no longer Co-Founder and Co-CEO?
Catholics have always had tolerance for the different “flavours” of Catholicism in each other. We may have dear Catholic friends who go gaga over an unapproved apparition, or find solace in traveling to anpparition sites. Others may choose to kneel on the floor to receive Communion on the tongue. Some have appreciated the charismatic renewal, and tongues are a quiet private consolation for them in their spiritual life. Others have a weighted focus on Mary, sometimes seeming to sideline Jesus. Some focus on novenas. Through all this we love and remain as Catholic friends, focusing on the central tenets of our beloved Catholic faith - the tenets that unite us. It may be a priest or parish karens who get knicker-knocked, screaming “Beware the attack in Unity!” over a parishioner kneeling for Communion on the tongue. The rest of the parish barely notices (if at all) and gets on with their lives. We are faithful Catholics. We love the Lord, love His Church, and seek to love and tolerate one another, all with differing flavours of piety.
We might be seeing here who is in the details now - dividing and conquering a ministry.
For what it is worth, I have heard at least a dozen around me say in the last few years that they rarely read Lifesite any more; they just scan the headlines - if that. Why? It is thought by some, myself included, it has become too strident, sometimes overreacting too quickly to news, and moving away from the original pro-life focus. The Church has always moved slowly. Perhaps we need to think about that.
Consider calling all parties involved to go on a three-day retreat with solid, knowledgeable third-party priests as directors. Pray together, eat together, receive the sacraments together. Kyrie eleison.
Sounds like Mystica Pollyanna to me. And as for tolerating the many "flavors" of Catholicism, uh-uh. There was only ONE flavor of Catholicism before Vatican II where every Catholic - good, bad, or indifferent - knew what the Faith was about, or could know if they cared to learn. And it didn't change to suit one's fancy at any given moment. It was always the same - One, Holy (pivotal word here, holy), Catholic, and Apostolic. A Catholic could go to Mass anywhere in the world and follow it because it was the same everywhere, said in one language - Latin - with the interpretation to the vernacular on one side of the missal and Latin on the other. We were catechized under one Catechism of the Church, taught what sin was, and how to work out our salvation here on earth. There were no charismatic renewals, guitar or clown masses, abbreviated habits, or pagan rituals to Pachamama. Yes, the Church moved slowly, not rushing into "canonizing" questionable propagandist social stars and soft-on-doctrine so-called apparitions. You talk about dividing and conquering a ministry. That's exactly what VII did to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church - it splintered her into exactly the melting pot of various "flavors" you describe above, with absolutely no unity. I want the True Church back, not this Ecclesia Haeretica.
>> Catholics have always had tolerance for the different “flavours” of Catholicism
No.
We have not always tolerated "different flavours."
That is a Modernist VII development.
Perhaps I was not clear. Maybe emphasis on certain “pieties” would be more accurate. I thought that became evident in the totality of my original posting.
We are faithful Catholics who live with other faithful Catholics, and we all know that good people take solace in, or emphasize, certain aspects of the faith (and, yes, sometimes it seems to others it can be too much of an emphasis). At the same time we all embrace the teachings of the Church, love the Sacraments and Sacred Scripture as best as we can.
I am not young, and I can say with certainty that most faithful Catholics I have known over these years have glommed onto a piety of sorts that consoles them, while not taking them away from the centrality of Catholic faith. One chases after every apparition that comes up, yet attends daily Mass, spends hours daily in intercessory prayer, leads an exemplary life. Another says Mother Mary and her deep faith in the rosary are her main focus and does not wish to meditate on Scripture; she is a holy, pious woman.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made, yet we are in part formed by our upbringing, teachers, environment. We are wounded and seek wholeness in our journey to God, battered by circumstance, culture, and the love that is available to us. We are sharing a path on the Kingdom of Heaven Road to the kingdom of heaven. God know our wounds, weaknesses, strengths and gifts. Most importantly, He knows our hearts.
My point, perhaps poorly made, was that we need to remember to cut each other some slack. We know not the struggles of other Catholics as they seek solace in faith. Many are dancing as fast as they can with the knowledge, circumstances and gifts they have. And I would hope that tolerance is given me as I seek to live out my Catholic faith. These are not easy times to be Catholic. Thanks be to God we have the grace of the sacraments.
The narrow path IS narrow.
Appreciate your heartfelt response, Donna Ruth. Thank you for posting.
"If the board trades a prophet for a manager...."
I believe calling JHW a prophet is mistaken when the big picture is taken into account. I would call him controlled opposition, one who was deviating too far. Something interesting to note is that LSN would allow comments & replies leading readers to novusordowatch.org or other sede sites like whitesmoke1958.com, which other Trad V2 sites would not allow. Maybe that's the main reason for his ouster?
LSN used to. They starting blocking factual comments about false popes acouple of months ago.