Gaspers and Matt: The Politics of Losing on Purpose
Gaspers and Matt rage against Trump, soft-pedal Leo XIV, and mistake political futility for Catholic principle while the actual enemies of the Faith keep winning.
There is a strange new genre emerging in traditional Catholic media. It looks tough. It sounds militant. It quotes the Social Kingship of Christ. It invokes John Vennari, Archbishop Lefebvre, Father Edmund Campion, Pat Buchanan, the old Remnant spirit, the old Catholic Identity Conference electricity, and every other symbol of resistance it can still safely borrow from the past.
Then it arrives at the one place where resistance is actually required and suddenly discovers nuance.
That was the spectacle in Matt Gaspers’ latest YouTube show with Michael Matt, “Fighting for the Faith in Church and State.” The advertised subject was noble enough: how Catholics can defend the Faith in the Church and in civil society, with special attention to Trump’s second term, the Iran conflict, the upcoming SSPX episcopal consecrations, and the future of the traditionalist movement under Leo XIV.
Fair enough. Let us talk about fighting for the Faith.
But fighting for the Faith does not mean mistaking a naval confrontation with Iran for the Iraq War, demoralizing Catholics in a binary election system, inventing a standard of political purity that no viable candidate can meet, and then using Leo XIV as a temporary moral authority whenever he happens to say something convenient.
John Vennari Called out Rome
Michael Matt invoked John Vennari’s deathbed charge to keep fighting. That is a serious thing to invoke. Vennari did fight. He fought the revolution when the revolution wore a smile, spoke gently, and came wrapped in papal white. He did not limit himself to the safe targets. He did not pretend that the crisis in the Church could be discussed while politely stepping around the men most responsible for creating, protecting, and expanding it.
That is the problem.
The old Remnant spirit named things. It named Assisi. It named ecumenism. It named religious liberty. It named the Novus Ordo revolution. It named the betrayal of Catholic states. It named the rot even when the rot came through men who were still personally more dignified, more theologically literate, and more externally Roman than the current leadership class in the Vatican.
Now the same world that once knew how to speak clearly about John Paul II and Benedict XVI has developed a crippling sensitivity around Leo XIV. We are told, in effect, that prudence requires silence and diplomacy requires softness. That the Latin Mass might be spared if everyone behaves. That the SSPX negotiations are delicate. That one must understand the chessboard. That perhaps the men in Rome will be moved by our good manners.
How is that strategy working?
The Latin Mass is still being squeezed. Fiducia Supplicans is still part of the governing landscape. The men who built the Francis machine have largely retained their influence. James Martin still gets the warm photo-op treatment. German bishops keep pushing the envelope. The Catholic world remains in doctrinal fog over homosexuality, remarriage, religious liberty, capital punishment, ecumenism, and the nature of the Church itself.
But Donald Trump fires on Iranian assets and suddenly everyone finds his manly voice again.
The Iraq Analogy Is Lazy
The Iran situation deserves serious moral analysis. It does not deserve slogans stolen from 2003.
The current conflict, whatever one thinks of its prudence, is not the Iraq War in miniature. Iraq involved a ground invasion, regime change, occupation, years of nation-building fantasies, and the expenditure of American lives and treasure in a project that metastasized far beyond its advertised rationale. The present Iran crisis, as reported this week, centers on U.S. and Israeli strikes that began on February 28, Iran’s closure or effective control of the Strait of Hormuz, a U.S. naval blockade of Iranian ports, and “Project Freedom,” a U.S. effort to reopen the strait and move stranded vessels through a vital shipping corridor. Reuters reported on May 4 that U.S. forces destroyed Iranian small boats and intercepted missiles and drones while reopening the strait, with a blockade of Iranian ports still in place.
The Associated Press likewise reported that the Trump administration launched “Project Freedom” to guide stranded ships through the Strait of Hormuz, with U.S. Central Command deploying destroyers, aircraft, and thousands of service members amid a fragile ceasefire.
One may object to the operation. One may question the War Powers posture. One may argue that the blockade is itself an act of war and demands congressional authorization. Serious people can debate that. In fact, there is already legal and political debate over Trump’s claim that hostilities had “terminated” after the April ceasefire while U.S. forces remained deployed and the blockade continued.
But the Iraq analogy is still a bludgeon, not an argument.
There is a moral and strategic difference between a years-long occupation of Baghdad and a naval-air campaign designed to pressure Iran, restrict its oil leverage, prevent nuclear breakout, and reopen one of the most important shipping lanes in the world. Even the Council on Foreign Relations summarized the strategic logic this way: Iran’s damaged nuclear infrastructure and control over the Strait of Hormuz are linked, because Tehran needs time, cash, and deterrence, making the reopening of the strait a central American objective.
Again, that does not settle the just-war question. But it does expose the laziness of the “Iraq all over again” routine. Every use of force is not Iraq and every anti-Iran measure is not neocon adventurism. Every action that benefits Israel is not therefore reducible to Israel. A Catholic political mind should be able to hold more than three thoughts in its head without collapsing into talk-radio conspiracism.
Just War Is Not a Feeling
Gaspers and Matt are free to argue that the Iran operation fails the just-war test. But then they need to actually argue it, not merely intone the phrase “just war” as though the case closes itself.
The Catechism’s modern formulation says the decision belongs to “the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good,” after considering whether the damage inflicted by the aggressor is lasting, grave, and certain; whether other means have failed or become ineffective; whether there are serious prospects of success; and whether the use of arms will avoid evils graver than those being eliminated.
That is not a blank check for presidents, but it is also not a magic wand for YouTube pundits.
Iran’s regime has threatened regional shipping, used proxies, pursued nuclear leverage, and now, according to multiple reports, has used the Strait of Hormuz as a pressure point against the global economy. One may still conclude that the U.S. response is imprudent, unlawful, disproportionate, or too dangerous. But the moral question cannot be reduced to a meme about Netanyahu, Christian Zionism, or “forever war.”
And this is where the whole performance becomes unbearable. These men want to pronounce with great confidence on the tactical and moral legitimacy of U.S. military operations in the Persian Gulf. Yet on the doctrinal and liturgical catastrophe inside the Church, where their own apostolate allegedly lives, suddenly the tone becomes careful, strategic, patient, diplomatic.
The president must be denounced now.
Leo XIV must be handled delicately.
How convenient.
The Trump Standard Is Kamala Harris, Not St. Louis IX
The political argument is even worse.
Michael Matt’s posture toward Trump rests on a fantasy standard. He speaks as though American Catholics are choosing between Donald Trump and a Catholic confessional monarchy, between Trump and St. Louis IX, between Trump and a Bourbon restoration.
They are not.
They are choosing between Trump and the Democratic Party. In 2024, they were choosing between Trump and Kamala Harris. That is the world God permitted us to inhabit. It may be ugly. It may be humiliating. It may be the late-stage wreckage of liberal democracy. But it is real.
A vote for Trump is not a canonization, but a defensive act in a collapsing republic. It is a vote for space, time, judicial appointments, regulatory resistance, border enforcement, protection against anti-Christian bureaucracy, and some restraint against the sexual revolution’s full political program. Trump is not the Social Kingship of Christ. He is a battering ram against people who despise it even more.
The most obvious example remains Dobbs. The Supreme Court held in 2022 that the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion, overruling Roe and Casey and returning abortion regulation to the people and their elected representatives. That outcome depended on a Court transformed by Trump’s appointments.
For nearly fifty years, the pro-life movement worked toward that result. It looked impossible. It became possible because enough Christians and conservatives refused the boutique moral vanity of sitting out elections until a perfect candidate appeared.
But now we are supposed to hear that Trump “played” Catholics.
By overturning Roe?
By appointing the justices who made Dobbs possible?
By reinstating and expanding the Mexico City Policy in 2025, which the White House described as ensuring taxpayer money would not be used to fund abortion globally?
By enforcing the Hyde Amendment and cutting or restricting abortion-related funding streams?
This is the sort of betrayal most pro-life voters spent their whole lives praying to be “betrayed” by.
The Mifepristone Complaint Ignores How Government Works
The abortion-pill issue is serious. Mifepristone is a genuine scandal. It has become one of the central mechanisms by which abortion survives after Dobbs, especially through telehealth and mail distribution.
But here too, Matt’s critique seems to leap over the actual legal machinery.
The FDA approved mifepristone years ago under Biden, and the current regulatory fight concerns REMS requirements, certified prescribers and pharmacies, mail dispensing, telemedicine access, and the administrative record supporting those rules. The FDA’s own 2026 materials state that mifepristone may be dispensed only by certified prescribers or certified pharmacies on a certified prescriber’s prescription, with pharmacies required to complete agreement forms and meet dispensing requirements.
The courts are actively fighting over this. On May 1, the Fifth Circuit temporarily blocked mail-order access by reinstating an in-person dispensing requirement, and on May 4 the Supreme Court temporarily restored broader access while emergency proceedings continue.
Meanwhile, HHS and FDA officials have said the agency is reviewing evidence concerning mifepristone’s safety and efficacy. CBS reported last September that Kennedy and FDA Commissioner Marty Makary wrote that HHS, through FDA, was conducting its own review of real-world safety and efficacy evidence.
That is not everything pro-lifers want. It may prove too slow. It may be politically managed. It may disappoint. But the basic point stands: a president cannot simply shout “ban the pill” from a balcony and thereby erase an FDA approval nationwide. Administrative law exists. Courts exist. Drug approval and withdrawal processes exist. The very same people who complain about executive overreach whenever it suits them suddenly want a magic wand when it comes to mifepristone.
The right critique is that the administration must move aggressively, lawfully, and with a litigation-ready record. The childish critique is that failure to produce an instant national ban proves Trump is a fraud.
IVF, Contraception, and the Politics of Losing on Purpose
Then come IVF, contraception, and civil “gay marriage.”
Catholic teaching is clear. IVF is gravely wrong. Contraception is gravely wrong. Civil recognition of same-sex unions is a public lie against nature and marriage. No Catholic should pretend otherwise.
But if Michael Matt wants candidates to win national elections while campaigning on banning IVF and contraception in 2026 America, he needs to explain where those voters are. They do not exist in sufficient numbers. That is a demographic fact. The country is paganized, contracepted, porn-saturated, divorced, sterilized, and catechized by screens. You cannot repair that by pretending a viable national electorate already exists for integral Catholic moral legislation.
You build that electorate first. You teach. You preach. You form families. You build institutions. You convert. You catechize. You create moral imagination where none remains. Then politics follows.
Matt seems to want the fruit of a Catholic culture while treating the actual political field as though it were already Catholic. That is how a man ends up refusing the best available defensive option because it falls short of a fantasy world that exists only in his own mind.
On same-sex marriage, the legal picture is also more complicated than the rhetoric suggests. Obergefell remains in place. The Supreme Court declined in November 2025 to hear Kim Davis’s petition asking it to reconsider Obergefell. The Respect for Marriage Act, signed by Biden in 2022, also requires recognition of same-sex marriages validly performed in other jurisdictions, even if Obergefell were later revisited.
So when Matt blames Trump for “gay marriage,” what exactly is the charge? That Trump did not campaign on a politically impossible national marriage restoration? That he did not reverse Obergefell by executive order? That he did not repeal a Biden-signed statute without Congress? That he has not turned America into a Catholic country by force of personality?
This is not politics. It is grievance theater.
“Voting for a President, Not a Pope” Remains the Point
Gaspers apparently mocked defenders of Trump as “Trumpsplainers,” comparing them to Catholics who defend Leo XIV no matter what he says or does.
The difference is enormous. Catholics who voted for Trump did not claim he was the Vicar of Christ, his tweets were magisterial, his instincts were protected by divine assistance, or that he was the visible principle of unity in the Church. They did not claim communion with Trump was necessary to belong to the Church. They voted for a secular ruler in a binary contest against an anti-Christian political machine.
That is called politics.
The “Popesplainer,” by contrast, takes a man presented as the supreme teacher and governor of the Church and then spends his life explaining why none of the poisonous things issuing from the postconciliar apparatus really mean what they appear to mean. Fiducia Supplicans? Misunderstood. Abu Dhabi? Misread. Religious liberty? Development. Communion for public adulterers? Pastoral accompaniment. Pachamama? Cultural symbol. Liturgical devastation? Complex. Doctrinal contradiction? Hermeneutic of continuity.
The Trump voter says, “This flawed secular politician is better than Kamala Harris.”
The Popesplainer says, “This man can preside over institutionalized contradiction and remain a safe rule of faith.”
One of those positions is ordinary prudence. The other is ecclesiastical gaslighting.
Leo XIV as Convenient Oracle
The most revealing part of the Gaspers-Matt posture is their use of Leo XIV.
When Leo speaks against an “unjust war,” suddenly his moral voice becomes useful. When he repeats Francis’s line that the death penalty is “inadmissible,” the same voices know how to bracket, soften, ignore, or resist.
Leo XIV’s April 24 video message to a DePaul University event in Chicago explicitly affirmed that “the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person,” and he offered support to those working for abolition in the United States and around the world.
Do Matt and Gaspers accept that as binding Catholic doctrine? Do they think Catholic states, historically, sinned by using capital punishment? Do they think Pius XII, St. Thomas, the Roman Catechism, the Fathers, and centuries of Catholic jurisprudence were waiting for Francis and Leo XIV to discover human dignity?
If not, then spare us the sudden Leo-as-moral-authority routine on Iran.
This is cafeteria papalism for men who mock cafeteria Catholicism. They take Leo when he wounds Trump and sideline him when he wounds tradition. They have created a private magisterium of convenience, with Rome as a prop and The Remnant as the filter.
The James Martin Problem Gives the Game Away
The same selectivity appears on homosexuality.
Leo XIV’s comments about German same-sex blessing ceremonies were treated by many conservatives as a decisive restoration of sanity. The reality was thinner. According to The Pillar’s report on the controversy, Leo said the Holy See did not agree with “formalized blessing of couples,” including homosexual couples and irregular couples, beyond what Francis had allowed in Fiducia Supplicans. He emphasized that all are welcome and that going beyond the Francis line “today” could cause more disunity than unity.
That is not a reversal of Fiducia Supplicans. It is the preservation of Fiducia Supplicans with a warning against formal ritualization. In September 2025, Leo had already said that Northern European blessing rituals went against Fiducia Supplicans because the document allowed blessings of all people but did not seek ritualized couple blessings.
So the liberal strategy remains perfectly visible: keep the principle, slow the implementation, avoid schism among the conservatives, and wait for attitudes to shift.
James Martin understood the signal well enough. He met with Leo XIV at the Vatican on September 1, 2025, in what America magazine described as a public reaffirmation of support for Martin and his ministry to LGBTQ Catholics.
And still the conservative-traditionalist spin machine wants applause because Leo told the Germans not to ritualize the revolution too quickly.
This is precisely the problem. Trump is judged by impossible Catholic standards no secular president could meet in the present electorate. Leo XIV is praised for slowing down the formalization of a doctrinal disaster his own Vatican apparatus still leaves intact.
If Trump fails to ban IVF, he is a fraud.
If Leo keeps Fiducia Supplicans but asks Germany not to turn it into a liturgical book just yet, ring the bells.
The SSPX Segment Exposes the Contradiction
Then comes the SSPX.
The Society announced that it intends to proceed with new episcopal consecrations on July 1, 2026. Its own public materials state that Father Davide Pagliarani announced the decision on February 2, citing grave necessity and the need to safeguard episcopal ministry for the good of souls.
Rome responded through Cardinal Fernández by proposing theological dialogue while asking the SSPX to suspend the announced episcopal ordinations. Vatican News reported that the Holy See warned such ordinations without papal approval would constitute a decisive rupture of ecclesial communion.
The SSPX then answered. Father Pagliarani’s February 18 letter to Fernández thanked him for the meeting but, in substance, rejected making the consecrations contingent on Rome’s proposed dialogue.
This is where Michael Matt’s position is incorrect.
He wants the SSPX to appear loyal, quiet, careful, Campion-like, hidden in the hedgerows, not shouting “down with the Queen,” not trashing the pope, not alienating Rome. But the actual SSPX position, if taken seriously, is a direct indictment of the postconciliar Roman authorities. The Society’s entire state-of-necessity argument depends on the claim that the official structures of the Church are so compromised that souls require extraordinary measures.
Matt wants the drama of Archbishop Lefebvre without the bluntness of Archbishop Lefebvre.
He wants the romance of resistance without the consequences of naming the enemy.
He wants to say there is a state of emergency, but then avoid the obvious question: who is presiding over the emergency?
If Leo XIV possesses the authority traditionalists say he possesses, then he could end the doctrinal chaos, liturgical persecution, homosexualist ambiguity, and Vatican II fog tomorrow. He could suppress Fiducia Supplicans. He could discipline the German bishops. He could rebuke James Martin. He could restore the Latin Mass. He could correct Amoris Laetitia. He could condemn religious indifferentism. He could state plainly that Vatican II must be read only in continuity with prior teaching, and that any interpretation contrary to tradition is false.
He has not done this.
So what exactly are we preserving by silence?
Father Campion Was Hiding From Persecutors, Not Fundraising Around Them
The Edmund Campion analogy deserves burial.
Campion operated in a Protestant police state where being a Catholic priest was treason. He used disguise because the regime would kill him. His caution served mission, sacrament, and martyrdom. He did not spend his apostolate flattering Elizabeth’s ecclesiastical settlement in the hope of getting a side chapel.
Traditional Catholic media figures in 2026 are not Elizabethan priests dodging pursuivants. They are public commentators with websites, conferences, YouTube channels, mailing lists, paid subscribers, donors, publishing houses, and social media accounts. They are not being dragged to Tyburn for saying Leo XIV is continuing the Francis revolution.
If one truly believes Leo XIV is an intoxicated father, an abusive father, a mentally unstable father, or a father under diabolical disorientation, then say it. If that language is too strong, stop laundering it through SSPX romance. But do not tell the faithful there is an emergency while training them to whisper around the emergency’s visible administrator.
The Old Remnant Knew Better
This is what makes the whole thing so sad.
The Remnant used to understand that Catholic resistance begins with reality. The revolution was not exposed by flattering the men who advanced it and it was not resisted by telling the faithful to remain silent until Rome rewarded them for good behavior.
And no, this does not mean every article must be a crude attack. It means clarity cannot be sacrificed to access.
If Leo XIV is continuing the Francis line, say so. If his Vatican preserves Fiducia Supplicans while merely objecting to German ritualization, say so. If his public warmth toward James Martin matters, say so. If his death penalty statement repeats Francis’s rupture with prior Catholic teaching, say so. If his handling of the SSPX is setting up another round of Roman pressure against traditionalists, say so.
But the new posture seems to be: roar at Trump, murmur at Leo.
That is backwards.
Trump is a secular president. Leo XIV is presented to Catholics as their spiritual ruler. At worst, any Trump errors may harm the country less than the alternative would have. Leo’s errors, if he is what conservative Catholics say he is, poison the sanctuary, the catechism, the confessional, the seminary, the parish, the family, the missionary field, and the souls of the faithful.
A Catholic commentator who spends more energy warning Catholics about Trump than warning Catholics about the doctrinal disaster in Rome has lost the plot.
The Real “Occupied Territory”
Michael Matt reportedly said Catholics are behind enemy lines in occupied territory.
Correct.
But occupied territory requires survival, prudence, and voting against those who want your children mutilated, your churches surveilled, your speech punished, your pro-life grandmothers jailed, your schools queered, your borders erased, your boys drugged, your daughters propagandized, and your religion treated as a domestic threat.
That is basic self-defense.
The Social Kingship of Christ will not be restored by helping Democrats win elections because Trump does not satisfy the syllabus of an imaginary Catholic monarchy. Nor will it be restored by giving Leo XIV the benefit of every doubt while the Vatican machine continues the same revolution under a calmer face.
Traditional Catholics do not need political quietism dressed up as purity. They do not need ecclesiastical quietism dressed up as prudence. They need the old courage with better aim.
Name the enemy in Washington when he is in Washington.
Name the enemy in Rome when he is in Rome.
And stop pretending that silence is strategy when it has become the one thing the revolution can always count on.
Conclusion: The Fight Is Real, So Fight the Real Fight
The tragedy of this Gaspers-Matt conversation is not that they criticized Trump.
The tragedy is proportion.
Trump receives the full prophetic treatment. Leo XIV receives diplomacy. Iran becomes the apocalypse. Fiducia Supplicans becomes nuance. A secular president is judged against Catholic kingship. A claimant to the Roman See is judged against the low bar of not letting the Germans sprint too fast.
That is not fighting for the Faith in Church and State.
That is fighting in the state because one has grown timid about fighting in the Church.
John Vennari deserved better than that. So did Archbishop Lefebvre. So did every traditional Catholic who was told for years that the crisis had roots, causes, names, documents, architects, and consequences.
The faithful are not asking for performance. They are asking for clarity.
The old command still stands.
Keep fighting.
But for heaven’s sake, aim at the right target.
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You have articulated something I have been struggling to find words for Chris . The moral bar for a pope vs the moral bar for a president.
Vital point absolutely vital .
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I attended the CIC two years ago and shall NEVER attend another one unless Michael Matt gets Catholic like he used to be! The conference was HORRIBLE!!! Absolutely nothing like conferences used to be…Catholic. Oh yes John Rao spoke and was fantastic but he was alone in giving a truly Catholic lecture!
What in the world happened to Matt???
And for that matter Gaspers?
I have learned from listening to reputable sources that the Iran war is to put an end to the threat the mullahs have around the world! They made a government grab 48 years ago and have been wreaking havoc on the world and their own Iranian people for the entire time. I understand that they recently murdered 38 thousand of their own countrymen. AND the population is grateful to Mr. Trump for what he is doing for them!!! We ought to be grateful as well because he’s working at ridding them to keep us safe as well.
Now people may want to say mean things to me and that’s okay I suppose but they will be incorrect because I trust the sources I have…military men and others who are in the know. Why me?🤷🏼♀️ But I’m grateful for knowing the truth about the situation.
Is Mr. Trump perfect? Oh my NO! I do think he loves America though. Do I think we need to watch and pray about him? YES I surely do think so!!! AND we must pray for his conversion and all those around him and of course for his safety as well.
I am so disappointed in Trad Inc. it’s a darn shame that this has happened with them…I suppose more than a darn shame!
We must pray for them and for perseverance for ourselves.
Blessed be Jesus Whose mother is Mary, CoRedemptrix, Mediatrix of All Graces and Queen of all creatures!!!