From Charlotte to Rome, the war on kneeling, tradition, and truth accelerates, while the Vatican distracts the faithful with concerts, slogans, and NGO pieties.
One factor in the Sacred Heart Seminary sackings is surely the fact that there are no personal consequences for the Archbishop. Three years' salary down the toilet? It is someone else's money. Lawsuits galore? That will be someone else's money. Further reduction in Mass attendance? The Archdiocese will last my time.
If a family business' owners make a bad decision, the family business is RIP. Or income is reduced, forcing personally painful choices. Similarly with employees of a company. Church positions? As seen in Santa Fe diocese, Fr Rosera can leave his position as priest for 28 years, live a totally anti-Catholic lifestyle and come back to promotions in the Diocese. Who cares? The suckers, sorry, sorry, parishioners will keep paying.
I feel sure that any damages and legal costs would still be paid by the Diocese. But a firm focus on the Bishop rather than some obscure decision mechanism would still be a deterrent.
I once made the mistake of kneeling in the middle of a quite wide main aisle in a Cathedral. Couldn't get up - had to waddle on my knees to the pew. Would have been a real spectacle if it hadn't been for the fact there was no-one else there, which tells a story in itself Not so old. People tend to forget it's not only the elderly who can have these problems but it can be 100% invisible.
All it would take is one elderly person to fall while attempting to rise to get a hard kneeling ban with mandatory denial of the Sacrament. Why not? They’ve already shown they don’t believe in the Real Presence.
We can offer up the sacrifice of kneeling on the floor on bare, even arthritic and painful knees to God in atonement for all the outrages committed against Him and His Sacred Heart, His Church, and all those who flout His Commandments. For those of us (me, in particularly, believe me!) who fear making a spectacle of ourselves, this will make the sacrifice even purer. May God give us the strength and grace! Alleluia!
Yes. My 54-year-old husband kneels each week on the hard marble tile in his expensive suits and with moderate knee pain from old sports injuries. I shamefully don't kneel, as I am always wearing a dress and have bony knees and am afraid I'd struggle to get up gracefully with no rail to hold on to. Which I know is what they're counting on. Perhaps next Sunday I will do it. I'll be in good company, as many do kneel at my church, even ladies in dresses.
Aren't we taught to carry our daily crosses with joy? If you find kneeling too difficult to receive Holy Communion, could you ask God and the Blessed Mother for the strength to do so and if it did result in knee replacements, offer that up as reparation for your sins or the sins of the world?
The surgery requires immobilization, rehab, pain pills etc. Will parishioners volunteer to do the legwork, driving etc for weeks? I offer up knee pain now.
Susan, I would hope that someone in your parish, a friend or neighbor would have the virtue of charity to help you. I fell and fractured my hip last Christmas Eve, live alone, have no family close by but am blessed with friends and neighbors and members of my parish who did whatever was needed during my recovery time. So I pray that you and everyone could be blessed as well. You are in my daily prayers.
That's fine if you want to do that and have someone to help you up when you've finished and you're not causing problems for everyone else, but you could do the same at home - where no-one except God will see your sacrifice.
Sure, I do that at home; but I believe the greater sacrifice would be to be willing to get down on our knees before God and others, or just to stick out our tongue to receive Him, and show the world we’re not ashamed to do this for Him. That’s what sacrifice means, to endure discomfort and maybe a little embarrassment for His sake. He sure did for us. And incidentally, I had the Host literally thrown in my face by a EM because I did not open my hands to receive but stuck out my tongue, instead. Is that what you’re implying causes problems for others because some of us would rather receive on the tongue (and kneeling before Our Lord and Savior, if possible) because it makes them feel uncomfortable?
No, I wasn't implying anything other than what I wrote, since I was clearly talking about people who have serious problems kneeling and getting up again. Practically, in a busy Church that could cause problems with lines etc. and the Church does not expect such people to kneel if they can't do so.
More importantly, do you honestly think that in a Church like that, the Consecration is valid? Why would you participate in such a sacrilegious carry-on? The Church also teaches that we shouldn't attend such 'Masses' and Churches. It tells us to rather keep Sundays etc. holy at home if there's no alternative.
I am a cradle Catholic, raised in the One, True, Holy and Catholic faith long before VII. I think I would be able to grasp if I was participating in a sacrilegious carry-on or not. Maybe you didn't intend it, but your remark was kind of insulting. Yes, of course I believe the Consecration is valid, performed by a validly ordained priest of the Catholic Church, whether in a Novus Ordo Mass or a traditional Latin Mass. Your response about attending "such Masses" is very misleading. Where in the catechism does it tell Catholics to refrain from attending "such Masses" and keep Sundays holy at home? On the contrary, Catholics are still obligated to attend Mass under penalty of mortal sin to deliberately stay away. That doesn't mean you have to like the Novus Ordo but it is still a valid Mass and many faithful Catholics have no choice to attend if they cannot get to a traditional Latin Mass church.
I can't imagine that if one really understands the sacrifice of Christ they would not want to kneel reverently when receiving His body, blood, humanity and divinity no matter how painful or inconvenient to others it may be.
Recall in the past how many people made pilgrimages moving on their knees for long stretches? Why do we moderns have such little respect for Our Savior?
If we think about the great sacrifices and hardships that many Catholics had to endure in the past and did so without complaint when getting to Holy Mass was more important than anything in their lives, we moderns are simply too spoiled.
Surrounding our Novus Ordo Sanctuary are 5 kneelers but not one is allowed to be used during distribution of Holy Communion . Elderly folk who dearly want to kneel could of course kneel on the floor BUT we have extreme difficulty getting back up again ! I now take 2 walking-sticks with me to enable kneeling + rising even though I do not need them in daily life . I truly admire the increasing number of young , fit parishioners who do kneel.
"I now take 2 walking-sticks with me to enable kneeling + rising even though I do not need them in daily life." I like your style, doing that so you can kneel to receive Holy Communion, but the fact you need to resort to that is absolute b.s.
Cardinal Roger Mahony had an unholy vengeance when it came to altar rails. He DEMANDED every single Church in one if not THE biggest dioceses in the US, REMOVE all Altar Rails. His home parish, “St. Charles of Borromeo “ was the single stand out, getting their magnificent Church identified as a “heritage” site. The Altar Rail eventually WAS removed when Archbishop Gomez was appointed, and Cardinal Mahony was forced to find other housing, alas, not in the palatial apartments he had built for himself was rejected by Gomez. Back to days of Mahony: one year at the annual unholy RE Congress where thousands of quacks appear, Mahony ANNOUNCED that ANYONE who knelt in the Communion Line who KNELT would not receive the Holy Eucharist. After that shocking event, he personally changed the manner in which people approach Communion. From the BACK OF THE CHURCH “citing the last shall be first.” His final desecration?! No longer sweet people “allowed” to return to their pew and kneel, which up until then was the custom. The rules came down HARD: when you return to your place, you must STAND until the last person receives. Los Angeles was told: This is not private. This is a feast and we partake together. You do not turn it into your “personal” talk with Jesus/God. I hate to disappoint this evil Cardinal. People stood for a long time & finally started kneeling again. I don’t go to any NO Masses anymore. And what I’m hearing from my friends?!!! Ever since the political ban was lifted from the pulpit, it’s been a free-for-all about disobeying the police, the government, etc.
Good on those people who woke up and started kneeling again, they should've never stopped, but at least they got it together. I never would have complied though.
The situation is such that we can say that the enemy has the buildings in his hands and is living in them, and that the few believers, despite everything, must preserve the one and only true Catholic Faith.
"In patientia vestra possidebitis animas vestras."
"By your steadfastness you will save your soul," the Lord once tells us.
So not only baptism, confirmation, only the sacraments, let alone anyone else, even a bishop or pope, who are obliged and certainly can help (only!) if they are Catholic... but your steadfastness in the Faith will save your soul.
Which in first place means true devotion to God and keeping His commandments.
As our Lord tells us another time:
"Si diligitis me, mandata mea servate : et ego rogabo Patrem, et alium Paraclitum dabit vobis, ut maneat vobiscum in aeternum."
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. Then, at My prayer, the Father will give you another Helper to abide with you forever."
Without keeping His commandments we can't have auxilium Spiritus Sancti. And if we don't have a help of the most Holy Spirit, then we are of this world. And if we are not just in this world, but we are, indeed, of this world, then we are not His true children, even when baptised and confirmed.
"Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity." (Mt 7,21-23)
"...the faithful are forced to choose between bishops who preach slogans and bishops who preach the faith."
Maybe it's really "the V2 faithful are forced to choose between fake bishops who preach slogans and fake bishops who adhere to much in Catholicism but preach the supernaturally compromised Vatican II faith, i.e. including ecumenism, religious liberty, collegiality, with the new mass, sacramental rites, laws & disciplines. In other words, NewChurch.
Keep reading & I think you might come to the conclusion that Paul VI was probably groomed from an early age for the job of creating a new Masonic-inspired church.
Some indications:
Communist asset: p.18; Responsible for the murder of scores of bishops & priests: p.21; Freemason: p.30; his mother a false convert Jew: p.44; as Jewish High Priest: p.50; Homosexual: p.55; Satanist?: 53, 59, 82, 87; p.80: read "Impostor Sr Lucia of Fatima": sisterlucytruth.org)
And I think the title should say "Antipope," not "Pope." But that's another story:
1. the exorcism prayers are efficacious in themselves, especially when prayed by a V2 priest who is inculpably ignorant of what really happened to the Church, or
2. the demons leave and go elsewhere in order to make priests and people believe in the validity of the V2 church.
We know that In the latter times, "even the elect (if it were possible) will be deceived." And the elect can be deceived if for whatever reason (God knows) they are deceived but they are subjectively not at fault for their ignorance.
Where are Catholics supposed to go for valid sacraments? I’m 53 years old (born in 1972) and my parents went along with V2. I just learned about the ACTUAL Church in 2019. But I’ve been attending a FSSP parish. That’s all invalid?
Many people here will not agree with me, but since the FSSP are part of the V2 church, one should not go to their church, but to one that is pre-V2.
In the article I linked on invalid orders it doesn't mention something significant, that the 1968 episcopal consecration rite is almost word for word taken from the rite from an Eastern Catholic Rite which makes someone who is already a bishop into a patriarch over a particular territory, equivalent to a primate in the Latin Church in certain countries, e.g. Poland. Hence the prayer says nothing about giving the priest the fullness of Orders but rather says to grant him a "governing spirit." Thus, invalid form of the sacrament.
I'm happy to share what I've learned from a good amount of research. In fact I believe I have a moral duty to do so. Most of what I share is at X, @rosaryknight, including pinned tweet replies.
But, RK, in your comment above you seemed to define the V2 church thusly, quoting: "the supernaturally compromised Vatican II faith, i.e. including ecumenism, religious liberty, collegiality, with the new mass, sacramental rites, laws & disciplines. In other words, NewChurch." That doesn't sound like the FSSP to me - I don't think they're preaching ecumenism and they're surely not using "the new mass." They abide by the 62 Missal - how is that post-V2?
Tomorrow morning, Labor Day, I can go to a close NO morning Mass, or a more distant diocesan Latin low Mass - I'm planning on the latter, but from what I think you're saying, I'd be probably wasting my time attending either one - so may as well just sleep late, stay home, relax with a coffee....
Hi David, I can only tell you from my personal experience at the FSSP parish I attend, that my pastor has pointed out from the pulpit things that are correct with V2 documents. I asked another priest there about attending non Catholic weddings and he sent me to Catholic Answers website and Jimmy Akin. He also told me to attend a NO mass if I can’t find a TLM. I was disappointed in their quarterly bulletin to see that some seminarians and priests attended the SEEK Confrenece. All of this makes sense once you read their mission statement which is to provide the extraordinary form of the Mass. This is such a journey when you were raised in the V2 church which I was. Born in 1972.
If there is no SSPX or other pre-V2 Mass, it is good to follow a live stream TLM, & get a missal, e.g. Father Stedman's My Sunday Missal, best price at bookfinder.com, & there are traditional sermons online, e.g. at tradlatinmass.com (today is the 12th Sunday after Pentecost - "Ordinary Time" is one of many illegitimate novelties of Paul VI)
“But Roman Rite Catholicism without kneeling is Catholicism without worship. And Catholicism without worship is no Catholicism at all.”
I’m not SSPX, and I’m not sede. But after reading Abp. Lefebvre’s “Letter to Concerned Catholics” cover to cover, I’m firmly convinced there’s no sin in staying home on Sundays and Holy Days if the N.O. Mass is your only option.
I was one of the handful who continued to kneel & receive on the tongue during the covid kerfuffle until last year. Then I came to the full realization, harsh & painful as a cradle Catholic, that I was kneeling to receive a piece of bread from an unordained man (I would line hop to avoid "euphamistic" ministers). I now go to a pre-1955 rite once a month at the Marriott when the priest visits our area.
I am new to this substack and I’m planning to subscribe, but I would like to know would it be possible to have audio? It would be easier for me to follow the substack ( difficulty with my reading).
Any Substack posted article can be converted to an audio listen using the phone or desktop app. Just tap the little play button at the top of the screen.
". . . receive standing like everyone else, or kneel on bare tile as if your devotion were an embarrassment." That's because it is an embarrassment to these contemptible fools.
Time for discernment and decisive action - it will only get worse as the listening synodal immitation of the Church further evolves the liturgy and theology to fit the image of man. ¨Apostasy from the top¨ was the warning we were NOT given in 1960. But Our Lady´s Immaculate Heart will triumph. St. Michael defend us in battle.
You're right, but the reality is that there won't be any decisive action. The so called "conservative Catholics" are too busy defending the Vatican II revolution and trashing the Traditional Catholics, while the Traditional Catholics are too busy fighting each other over minor details on one hand, and being obsessed with "obedience" on the other. The bishops know they can do what they want and can get away with it. All they have to do is mouth the word "obedience" and the Trads will cave. If the sex abuse scandal wasn't enough to get "Catholics" to take action and do whatever was necessary (within moral bounds) to remove them from their chanceries and the priests involved from their rectories, then NOTHING is EVER going to be enough.
There are only Catholics and non-Catholics. Catholics profess and try to live the faith given by Christ to the Apostles and their valid successor's and it does not ever change.
If we consider that the apostasy from the top started with John XXIII, we then know full well why there was no 'warning' in 1960 (I firmly believe Sr Lucia wasn't around or free at that time anyway). It would also explain why it wasn't opened then - sorry, why it wasn't published then. They'd read it and refused to do so as it would have been a direct pointer to the VII Council and all the changes not being done under the inspiration of the true 'Holy Spirit'.
From Tradition in Action:
In face of the refusal of the Bishop da Silva to open the Secret, we have the decisive testimony of Canon Galamba, close friend and adviser of the Bishop:
“When the Bishop refused to open the letter, Lucia made him promise that it would definitely be opened and read to the world either at her death or in 1960, whichever would come first.”
Dr. Horvat responds:
I was a youth in 1960, but I clearly remember waiting with anticipation in 1960 for the Fatima secret to be revealed. Interest in Fatima was very strong then, the devotion was flourishing, and my parents – like so many others – were anxiously waiting for the Pope to open the sealed letter and reveal to the world the message, according to the express desire of Our Lady related by Sister Lucia.
Were we all being fooled? Certainly not. High authorities in the Church confirmed repeatedly that the message was to be revealed in 1960.
One factor in the Sacred Heart Seminary sackings is surely the fact that there are no personal consequences for the Archbishop. Three years' salary down the toilet? It is someone else's money. Lawsuits galore? That will be someone else's money. Further reduction in Mass attendance? The Archdiocese will last my time.
If a family business' owners make a bad decision, the family business is RIP. Or income is reduced, forcing personally painful choices. Similarly with employees of a company. Church positions? As seen in Santa Fe diocese, Fr Rosera can leave his position as priest for 28 years, live a totally anti-Catholic lifestyle and come back to promotions in the Diocese. Who cares? The suckers, sorry, sorry, parishioners will keep paying.
I hear ya…..and I hope not.
Blessings to you n yours and….never give up , not ever.
Maybe people should begin suing the bishops personally, not the diocese.
I feel sure that any damages and legal costs would still be paid by the Diocese. But a firm focus on the Bishop rather than some obscure decision mechanism would still be a deterrent.
They should all wear knee pads and continue kneeling. Seriously.
Sometimes you have to not just fight back, but make it as clear as possible that you are fighting back.
Kneepads aren't enough for older people. I could get down to kneel, but without something to hold onto, getting up is a lengthy struggle.
I once made the mistake of kneeling in the middle of a quite wide main aisle in a Cathedral. Couldn't get up - had to waddle on my knees to the pew. Would have been a real spectacle if it hadn't been for the fact there was no-one else there, which tells a story in itself Not so old. People tend to forget it's not only the elderly who can have these problems but it can be 100% invisible.
All it would take is one elderly person to fall while attempting to rise to get a hard kneeling ban with mandatory denial of the Sacrament. Why not? They’ve already shown they don’t believe in the Real Presence.
ypu don't need that to kneel...
Maybe some people do, not everyone is in their teens and 20's. Not everybody is athletic. Wait till you get into your 50's and older...
Especially your 70s.
We can offer up the sacrifice of kneeling on the floor on bare, even arthritic and painful knees to God in atonement for all the outrages committed against Him and His Sacred Heart, His Church, and all those who flout His Commandments. For those of us (me, in particularly, believe me!) who fear making a spectacle of ourselves, this will make the sacrifice even purer. May God give us the strength and grace! Alleluia!
Yes. My 54-year-old husband kneels each week on the hard marble tile in his expensive suits and with moderate knee pain from old sports injuries. I shamefully don't kneel, as I am always wearing a dress and have bony knees and am afraid I'd struggle to get up gracefully with no rail to hold on to. Which I know is what they're counting on. Perhaps next Sunday I will do it. I'll be in good company, as many do kneel at my church, even ladies in dresses.
This shouldn’t be a debate. If someone risks injury by kneeling, they don’t kneel. End of conversation.
There's no one to help me if I have to get knee replacements, and I likely would.
Aren't we taught to carry our daily crosses with joy? If you find kneeling too difficult to receive Holy Communion, could you ask God and the Blessed Mother for the strength to do so and if it did result in knee replacements, offer that up as reparation for your sins or the sins of the world?
The surgery requires immobilization, rehab, pain pills etc. Will parishioners volunteer to do the legwork, driving etc for weeks? I offer up knee pain now.
Susan, I would hope that someone in your parish, a friend or neighbor would have the virtue of charity to help you. I fell and fractured my hip last Christmas Eve, live alone, have no family close by but am blessed with friends and neighbors and members of my parish who did whatever was needed during my recovery time. So I pray that you and everyone could be blessed as well. You are in my daily prayers.
That's fine if you want to do that and have someone to help you up when you've finished and you're not causing problems for everyone else, but you could do the same at home - where no-one except God will see your sacrifice.
Sure, I do that at home; but I believe the greater sacrifice would be to be willing to get down on our knees before God and others, or just to stick out our tongue to receive Him, and show the world we’re not ashamed to do this for Him. That’s what sacrifice means, to endure discomfort and maybe a little embarrassment for His sake. He sure did for us. And incidentally, I had the Host literally thrown in my face by a EM because I did not open my hands to receive but stuck out my tongue, instead. Is that what you’re implying causes problems for others because some of us would rather receive on the tongue (and kneeling before Our Lord and Savior, if possible) because it makes them feel uncomfortable?
No, I wasn't implying anything other than what I wrote, since I was clearly talking about people who have serious problems kneeling and getting up again. Practically, in a busy Church that could cause problems with lines etc. and the Church does not expect such people to kneel if they can't do so.
More importantly, do you honestly think that in a Church like that, the Consecration is valid? Why would you participate in such a sacrilegious carry-on? The Church also teaches that we shouldn't attend such 'Masses' and Churches. It tells us to rather keep Sundays etc. holy at home if there's no alternative.
I am a cradle Catholic, raised in the One, True, Holy and Catholic faith long before VII. I think I would be able to grasp if I was participating in a sacrilegious carry-on or not. Maybe you didn't intend it, but your remark was kind of insulting. Yes, of course I believe the Consecration is valid, performed by a validly ordained priest of the Catholic Church, whether in a Novus Ordo Mass or a traditional Latin Mass. Your response about attending "such Masses" is very misleading. Where in the catechism does it tell Catholics to refrain from attending "such Masses" and keep Sundays holy at home? On the contrary, Catholics are still obligated to attend Mass under penalty of mortal sin to deliberately stay away. That doesn't mean you have to like the Novus Ordo but it is still a valid Mass and many faithful Catholics have no choice to attend if they cannot get to a traditional Latin Mass church.
I can't imagine that if one really understands the sacrifice of Christ they would not want to kneel reverently when receiving His body, blood, humanity and divinity no matter how painful or inconvenient to others it may be.
Recall in the past how many people made pilgrimages moving on their knees for long stretches? Why do we moderns have such little respect for Our Savior?
If we think about the great sacrifices and hardships that many Catholics had to endure in the past and did so without complaint when getting to Holy Mass was more important than anything in their lives, we moderns are simply too spoiled.
Surrounding our Novus Ordo Sanctuary are 5 kneelers but not one is allowed to be used during distribution of Holy Communion . Elderly folk who dearly want to kneel could of course kneel on the floor BUT we have extreme difficulty getting back up again ! I now take 2 walking-sticks with me to enable kneeling + rising even though I do not need them in daily life . I truly admire the increasing number of young , fit parishioners who do kneel.
"I now take 2 walking-sticks with me to enable kneeling + rising even though I do not need them in daily life." I like your style, doing that so you can kneel to receive Holy Communion, but the fact you need to resort to that is absolute b.s.
Cardinal Roger Mahony had an unholy vengeance when it came to altar rails. He DEMANDED every single Church in one if not THE biggest dioceses in the US, REMOVE all Altar Rails. His home parish, “St. Charles of Borromeo “ was the single stand out, getting their magnificent Church identified as a “heritage” site. The Altar Rail eventually WAS removed when Archbishop Gomez was appointed, and Cardinal Mahony was forced to find other housing, alas, not in the palatial apartments he had built for himself was rejected by Gomez. Back to days of Mahony: one year at the annual unholy RE Congress where thousands of quacks appear, Mahony ANNOUNCED that ANYONE who knelt in the Communion Line who KNELT would not receive the Holy Eucharist. After that shocking event, he personally changed the manner in which people approach Communion. From the BACK OF THE CHURCH “citing the last shall be first.” His final desecration?! No longer sweet people “allowed” to return to their pew and kneel, which up until then was the custom. The rules came down HARD: when you return to your place, you must STAND until the last person receives. Los Angeles was told: This is not private. This is a feast and we partake together. You do not turn it into your “personal” talk with Jesus/God. I hate to disappoint this evil Cardinal. People stood for a long time & finally started kneeling again. I don’t go to any NO Masses anymore. And what I’m hearing from my friends?!!! Ever since the political ban was lifted from the pulpit, it’s been a free-for-all about disobeying the police, the government, etc.
I grew up in Whittier, CA and well remember Cardinal Mahoney, and yes, he was most evil, no doubt about it. Still is. Gomez not much better.
Good on those people who woke up and started kneeling again, they should've never stopped, but at least they got it together. I never would have complied though.
The situation is such that we can say that the enemy has the buildings in his hands and is living in them, and that the few believers, despite everything, must preserve the one and only true Catholic Faith.
"In patientia vestra possidebitis animas vestras."
"By your steadfastness you will save your soul," the Lord once tells us.
So not only baptism, confirmation, only the sacraments, let alone anyone else, even a bishop or pope, who are obliged and certainly can help (only!) if they are Catholic... but your steadfastness in the Faith will save your soul.
Which in first place means true devotion to God and keeping His commandments.
As our Lord tells us another time:
"Si diligitis me, mandata mea servate : et ego rogabo Patrem, et alium Paraclitum dabit vobis, ut maneat vobiscum in aeternum."
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. Then, at My prayer, the Father will give you another Helper to abide with you forever."
Without keeping His commandments we can't have auxilium Spiritus Sancti. And if we don't have a help of the most Holy Spirit, then we are of this world. And if we are not just in this world, but we are, indeed, of this world, then we are not His true children, even when baptised and confirmed.
"Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity." (Mt 7,21-23)
"...the faithful are forced to choose between bishops who preach slogans and bishops who preach the faith."
Maybe it's really "the V2 faithful are forced to choose between fake bishops who preach slogans and fake bishops who adhere to much in Catholicism but preach the supernaturally compromised Vatican II faith, i.e. including ecumenism, religious liberty, collegiality, with the new mass, sacramental rites, laws & disciplines. In other words, NewChurch.
novusordowatch.org/2018/06/unholy-orders-50-years-invalid-ordinations
This is not easy for most to accept, but it becomes easier when one knows just how evil an agent of Satan "Saint" Paul VI was.
catholicendtimetruths.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Chiesa-viva-441-S-en-OK-1.pdf
Amen !
I just began reading this Paul VI article. Paul's mentality brings Leo to mind right away.
Keep reading & I think you might come to the conclusion that Paul VI was probably groomed from an early age for the job of creating a new Masonic-inspired church.
Some indications:
Communist asset: p.18; Responsible for the murder of scores of bishops & priests: p.21; Freemason: p.30; his mother a false convert Jew: p.44; as Jewish High Priest: p.50; Homosexual: p.55; Satanist?: 53, 59, 82, 87; p.80: read "Impostor Sr Lucia of Fatima": sisterlucytruth.org)
And I think the title should say "Antipope," not "Pope." But that's another story:
novusordowatch.org/paul-vi
I appreciate your quick reply. If the priests and bishops are invalid, how are any exorcisms being done?
That is a good question. I believe that either
1. the exorcism prayers are efficacious in themselves, especially when prayed by a V2 priest who is inculpably ignorant of what really happened to the Church, or
2. the demons leave and go elsewhere in order to make priests and people believe in the validity of the V2 church.
We know that In the latter times, "even the elect (if it were possible) will be deceived." And the elect can be deceived if for whatever reason (God knows) they are deceived but they are subjectively not at fault for their ignorance.
Where are Catholics supposed to go for valid sacraments? I’m 53 years old (born in 1972) and my parents went along with V2. I just learned about the ACTUAL Church in 2019. But I’ve been attending a FSSP parish. That’s all invalid?
Many people here will not agree with me, but since the FSSP are part of the V2 church, one should not go to their church, but to one that is pre-V2.
In the article I linked on invalid orders it doesn't mention something significant, that the 1968 episcopal consecration rite is almost word for word taken from the rite from an Eastern Catholic Rite which makes someone who is already a bishop into a patriarch over a particular territory, equivalent to a primate in the Latin Church in certain countries, e.g. Poland. Hence the prayer says nothing about giving the priest the fullness of Orders but rather says to grant him a "governing spirit." Thus, invalid form of the sacrament.
Thank you Rosary Knight! It all seems so unfathomable. I will try to read all of the info. Ave Maria!
I'm happy to share what I've learned from a good amount of research. In fact I believe I have a moral duty to do so. Most of what I share is at X, @rosaryknight, including pinned tweet replies.
Mariam cogita, Mariam invoca!
But, RK, in your comment above you seemed to define the V2 church thusly, quoting: "the supernaturally compromised Vatican II faith, i.e. including ecumenism, religious liberty, collegiality, with the new mass, sacramental rites, laws & disciplines. In other words, NewChurch." That doesn't sound like the FSSP to me - I don't think they're preaching ecumenism and they're surely not using "the new mass." They abide by the 62 Missal - how is that post-V2?
Tomorrow morning, Labor Day, I can go to a close NO morning Mass, or a more distant diocesan Latin low Mass - I'm planning on the latter, but from what I think you're saying, I'd be probably wasting my time attending either one - so may as well just sleep late, stay home, relax with a coffee....
The FSSP is in communion with the counterfeit Novus Ordo church.
Specifically, how so?
Surely you can provide 3 or 4 brief examples as to how they are "in communion."
Hi David, I can only tell you from my personal experience at the FSSP parish I attend, that my pastor has pointed out from the pulpit things that are correct with V2 documents. I asked another priest there about attending non Catholic weddings and he sent me to Catholic Answers website and Jimmy Akin. He also told me to attend a NO mass if I can’t find a TLM. I was disappointed in their quarterly bulletin to see that some seminarians and priests attended the SEEK Confrenece. All of this makes sense once you read their mission statement which is to provide the extraordinary form of the Mass. This is such a journey when you were raised in the V2 church which I was. Born in 1972.
Go to their website:
https://www.fssp.org/en/presentation-2/documents/
If there is no SSPX or other pre-V2 Mass, it is good to follow a live stream TLM, & get a missal, e.g. Father Stedman's My Sunday Missal, best price at bookfinder.com, & there are traditional sermons online, e.g. at tradlatinmass.com (today is the 12th Sunday after Pentecost - "Ordinary Time" is one of many illegitimate novelties of Paul VI)
Listen to this: youtube.com/watch?v=nO-8UhGOagg&t=4s (3 min, 40 sec; the YT channel has more)
Here are three sources where the true Catholic faith is believed and taught and the true Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is found:
1. CMRI.org
2. https://www.sspv.org/index.php/locations
3. http://traditio.com/nat.htm
I can't verify this but I heard that during an exorcism a demon said about Paul VI: "He's with us. He didn't do all we wanted but he did enough."
“But Roman Rite Catholicism without kneeling is Catholicism without worship. And Catholicism without worship is no Catholicism at all.”
I’m not SSPX, and I’m not sede. But after reading Abp. Lefebvre’s “Letter to Concerned Catholics” cover to cover, I’m firmly convinced there’s no sin in staying home on Sundays and Holy Days if the N.O. Mass is your only option.
I did a lot of reading and then followed SSPX advice and guidelines and did just that. We can keep Sundays, Holydays and ALL days holy at home.
Holier, actually.
Definitely - I actually have been a Catholic for the last 10 years which I had never been since childhood!!!
dailycatholic.org has information on what to do "When One Cannot physically Assist at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass."
https://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/
You might have to scroll up or down a bit but look at the left side of the page.
I was one of the handful who continued to kneel & receive on the tongue during the covid kerfuffle until last year. Then I came to the full realization, harsh & painful as a cradle Catholic, that I was kneeling to receive a piece of bread from an unordained man (I would line hop to avoid "euphamistic" ministers). I now go to a pre-1955 rite once a month at the Marriott when the priest visits our area.
Blessed be God.
Appreciation and blessings from Sydney Australia.
I am new to this substack and I’m planning to subscribe, but I would like to know would it be possible to have audio? It would be easier for me to follow the substack ( difficulty with my reading).
Any Substack posted article can be converted to an audio listen using the phone or desktop app. Just tap the little play button at the top of the screen.
Thank you so much! I am not app savvy, so I really appreciate your reply.
It is actually only the phone app that has the audio. There is a play button at the top of the article.
It would be useful to know whether or not Bp. Martin is a homosexual. It is an entirely fair question.
He isn't a bishop so it doesn't matter what he is. Completely avoid him.
Seems like a bishop sniffing around a school chapel doesn't have enough to do.
". . . receive standing like everyone else, or kneel on bare tile as if your devotion were an embarrassment." That's because it is an embarrassment to these contemptible fools.
God help us overcome the wolves in (lavender) sheep's clothing.
Time for discernment and decisive action - it will only get worse as the listening synodal immitation of the Church further evolves the liturgy and theology to fit the image of man. ¨Apostasy from the top¨ was the warning we were NOT given in 1960. But Our Lady´s Immaculate Heart will triumph. St. Michael defend us in battle.
You're right, but the reality is that there won't be any decisive action. The so called "conservative Catholics" are too busy defending the Vatican II revolution and trashing the Traditional Catholics, while the Traditional Catholics are too busy fighting each other over minor details on one hand, and being obsessed with "obedience" on the other. The bishops know they can do what they want and can get away with it. All they have to do is mouth the word "obedience" and the Trads will cave. If the sex abuse scandal wasn't enough to get "Catholics" to take action and do whatever was necessary (within moral bounds) to remove them from their chanceries and the priests involved from their rectories, then NOTHING is EVER going to be enough.
There are only Catholics and non-Catholics. Catholics profess and try to live the faith given by Christ to the Apostles and their valid successor's and it does not ever change.
If we consider that the apostasy from the top started with John XXIII, we then know full well why there was no 'warning' in 1960 (I firmly believe Sr Lucia wasn't around or free at that time anyway). It would also explain why it wasn't opened then - sorry, why it wasn't published then. They'd read it and refused to do so as it would have been a direct pointer to the VII Council and all the changes not being done under the inspiration of the true 'Holy Spirit'.
From Tradition in Action:
In face of the refusal of the Bishop da Silva to open the Secret, we have the decisive testimony of Canon Galamba, close friend and adviser of the Bishop:
“When the Bishop refused to open the letter, Lucia made him promise that it would definitely be opened and read to the world either at her death or in 1960, whichever would come first.”
Dr. Horvat responds:
I was a youth in 1960, but I clearly remember waiting with anticipation in 1960 for the Fatima secret to be revealed. Interest in Fatima was very strong then, the devotion was flourishing, and my parents – like so many others – were anxiously waiting for the Pope to open the sealed letter and reveal to the world the message, according to the express desire of Our Lady related by Sister Lucia.
Were we all being fooled? Certainly not. High authorities in the Church confirmed repeatedly that the message was to be revealed in 1960.
https://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/F039_Secret1960.html
The smoke of Satan is clearly entrenched in the vatican, and through it in the entire bogus ordo abomination of a church.